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Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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It's also possible the Trump admin has people commenting online.

They don't need to be part of the administration. More than 50% of voters voted for Trump. Even today >30% (of everyone) think he's doing a good job. (Ie about equal to the voters in absolute number terms). Lots of people believe eat he is doing is legal simply because he is doing it.

> More than 50% of voters voted for Trump.

Only 49.8% voted for Trump in the 2024 US election.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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I doubt the Canadians want their economy flooded with Chinese goods ("dumping" - selling goods at less than cost) - which destroys local industry. This was predicted in The Economist awhile back, that if the US blocked Chinese imports a tsunami of Chinese goods would flood other countries and now it's happening. Those countries will also, in turn, erect trade barriers, or suffer the devastation that massive Chinese d…

Oh no! Cheap goods and services! Maybe some other governments will be smart enough to not let a massive influx of nearly free stuff make everyone materially worse off. In fact it seems like only a completely idiotic system would make people worse off for having more free stuff.

oh no, lost jobs and and dying economy!

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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There was a guy in the comments of the first article on this topic, who claimed to be an expert on this law and was adamant that the decision by the Trump admin was perfectly legal. Not just for accountability sake, but if that gentleman could come back in here and outline what he thinks is going on that would be quite interesting.

It’s possible this could go before multiple judges who won’t all agree with this particular one.

Yeah but this was supposedly "Cut and dry" and no one familiar with the law could possibly mistake it, and it was all media manipulation that made it seem like there was a case where there wasnt one.

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It's a shame companies like Google immediately folded instead of standing with them. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/iKm2FhpWkuuBojm82/why-i-left... In his recent interview Emil Michael (DoW undersecretary, "AI czar") even mentions that the Anthropic case served as motivation for Google folding. It is a shame that Google's leadership is so spineless. On the minuscule off-chance any of those VPs are reading HN - you a…

Didn't google give up "not being evil" a long long time ago? Are you really surprised?

Just because you expect someone to do a bad thing doesn't mean you shouldn't shame them when they actually do the bad thing.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Oh no! Cheap goods and services! Maybe some other governments will be smart enough to not let a massive influx of nearly free stuff make everyone materially worse off. In fact it seems like only a completely idiotic system would make people worse off for having more free stuff.

oh no, lost jobs and and dying economy!

It is genuinely impossible to compete in a market where alternatives are cheaper enough, just look at how Amazon Basics squeezes competitors out of business.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

> Why can't they expedite for special cases? To a certain extent this exists, but given that SCOTUS has been stacked with GOPers… > The shadow docket is a break from ordinary procedure. Such cases receive very limited briefings and are typically decided a week or less after an application is filed. The process generally results in short, unsigned rulings. In contrast, merits cases take months, include extensive brief…

It's not unusual that the "shadow docket" orders have limited briefings when the extent of the ruling/order is usually procedural, as opposed to ruling on the merits of the case.

It should be noted any justice can write a dissent in a "shadow docket" ruling. If a justice finds a ruling incorrect, nothing hides their criticism of it from the light.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

The law is normally supposed to repay whatever damage you suffered while the law was running.

What would that even be in a case like this?

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

Mostly, the law is not creating the right incentives. In this case in particular, I don't think it's so much a matter of speed: I suspect the current US admin would still sow the chaos they do to the same degree if it was ruled illegal within a week instead of within months.
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