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Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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load-bearing was/is used frequently on the ops side of things, I assume the LLMs picked up from physical engineering texts or sysadmin type blogs.

"Load-bearing" is an apt metaphor in the https://xkcd.com/2347/ sense.

I take it in a get-ye-flask mode.

http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Ye_Flask

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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In the enterprise, we are already adopting them. “Seam”, I term I’d never heard used before, is now not only our defacto way to describe the boundary between systems/workflows/components, it is encoded into our organizational roles and responsibilities descriptions. I am the proud owner of several seams, and am considering giving them person-names. The empty space between my inventory APIs and their clients might be…

"seam" is a cop-out term for when someone (usually AI) lacks the imagination to come up with something more descriptive. It's like saying "middle thing". Just name it by what it does, and if you can't, remove it because it's not doing anything. "load-bearing" on the other hand is just a weird way to say "required" or "prerequisite" without drawing any attention to the fact that one cannot articulate what something is…

"Seam" has been a thing since before the AI craze. Wasn't it the NSA director who once said something like "we make our living at the seams"?

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Is it the obnoxious style that causes this?

I think it's the hierarchies of agents summarizing each others' summaries before presenting a final answer to the user. The principal agent has the full context from all its workers, but when it distills this down to a message to the user it summarizes it into a mess of confident jargon that pertains to a conversation the user wasn't a part of and never saw.

It happens with a single chat session as well, but not as often. I suspect it's the same thing going on in the hidden thinking tokens.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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I've recently seen this mentioned more and more, both on HN and on reddit. It seems these output patterns are getting worse. It's not just Claude, my impression is that all of the current models have this style issue. Their writing can get borderline incomprehensible. Is there some feedback loop or compounding happening with each model generation? Maybe newer models are ingesting too much AI content? If the ratio of…

We are seeing more of their "thinking". Lowering the refinement of the output to get closer to profitability. The nature of the LLM is that it generates huge amounts of text, then it iterates them down into a compact, hopefully accurate prose. That refinement is the really hard part and computationally costly.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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I was pleasantly surprised when I attempted to scroll down and realized everything the author wanted to present fit on-screen. It's almost ironic that this site is able to make such an obvious, compelling presentation without being overly verbose or complicated (something which LLMs have a hard time doing). I wouldn't read TOO deeply into what is being presented, but the author has done a good job to not inject their…

>I suspect, as we continue forward, humans will slowly start to adopt the language of LLMs I'm already seeing it. A coworker said something like " added the color to the ticket here" meaning that someone added details to a ticket. I've started seeing Opus 5 talk about "hermetic testing" when it just means "unit testing", so I hope that doesn't catch on...

I’ve been using that idiom since 2010.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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>I suspect, as we continue forward, humans will slowly start to adopt the language of LLMs I'm already seeing it. A coworker said something like " added the color to the ticket here" meaning that someone added details to a ticket. I've started seeing Opus 5 talk about "hermetic testing" when it just means "unit testing", so I hope that doesn't catch on...

The idiom "added color to" as an expression of adding detail or nuance to something goes back much further than the AI era. I've certainly used it at various times in my career spanning 4 decades now.

All of these phrases existed. Claude didn’t come up with them. The question is whether people are using them a lot more now due to Claude’s influence.
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