I wonder if this has to do with the current economy and job market. Anecdotally I have found it very tough to find a new job (software engineering), though my previous employer continues to post job listings for green card applications as part of the required labor market test.
They are not connected - this is a pause on immigrant visas, not work visas.
U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications
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#942Some of the comments are talking about H1-B which isn't impacted by this. Vivek Wadhwa, one of the staunchest supporters of H1B ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12489558 ) is now recommending to end it: https://x.com/wadhwa/status/2090958079726927873
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#943The main thing that has made America exceptional has been that we attract all the smartest and most ambitious people from around the world. They work side by side by all of the smartest and most ambitious people born in America. We have won by having a disproportionate percentage of the world's smartest and most ambitious people, those born here + those who choose to come here. So now, we're just throwing that all aw…
Also, let's not be as childish as assuming that policies that were good 100+ years ago for a country should be good ad vitam eternam. Countries change, their interests change, therefore their policies should change accordingly.
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#944Genuine question for any american fellows: Is this a real problem ? Is this a really a priority problem in your pov ? If if is why ? In my country, we do have a policy of integrating people quite early on if they come from a fragile situation and for other people if they have jobs and can sustain themselves it is a bonus as they contribute with taxes and will have basically no benefits like retirement. I am not makin…
Stopping immigration is a priority yes. A job would contribute equal taxes if a current permanent resident was doing it. Unemployment is an issue, there is no need for more immigration.
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#945That doesn't sound too bad, it just means that workers who would otherwise have migrated to the US can enrich their home countries, or other countries they are more easily able to migrate too. From an economic point of view this may well end up being a positive policy decision for both sides.
> positive policy decision for both sides. Actually not. Harmful for US. US gains for more from the skilled immigrants (at their cost).
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#946Earlier quoted context omitted.
This was never about talent. It's about companies hiring foreigners on h1b visas at below market wages where their life in the USA is contingent on their job performance forcing them to work harder and longer than their peers to remain in the country. It's a situation that only benefits companies, while harming US citizens who have to compete with the lower wages of foreigners.
I work in a global company. As an interviewer, I don't even know if the person I interview is a US citizen. I don't even know if they live in the US or another country, and I'm probably not allowed to ask. I just rate their performance. And everybody is paid the same. I think the situation is quite simple. Companies want the best candidates they can get, and the larger the recruitment pool, the better. If tomorrow yo…
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#948Earlier quoted context omitted.
> positive policy decision for both sides. Actually not. Harmful for US. US gains for more from the skilled immigrants (at their cost).
So the US is being very selfless here and deciding that all these "exceptional" migrants should instead improve their own country. Pretty noble of the US if you ask me.
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#949Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think one of the fundamental problem with h1b is that it is labeled as "non-immigrant" whereas for all practical purposes it is really an immigrant visa. Why would a person who is supposedly having rare skills come to a country and spend their best years here without reasonable guarantee of permanency? People buy homes because it is a reasonable belief that they are going to be living here permanently and it has hi…
> I think one of the fundamental problem with h1b is that it is labeled as "non-immigrant" whereas for all practical purposes it is really an immigrant visa. The fundamental problem is people spreading this lie. It has a path to permanent immigration, but it is a non immigrant visa, it is very clearly define and describe as such. It is idiotic to build a life in a country where you only have a temporary visa. I've li…
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#950Earlier quoted context omitted.
Welcome to how immigration works in other countries. Canada just changed a bunch of rules and is actively sending immigration officers to immigrant protests to run status checks and deport anyone in the country illegally. There is no right for non-citizens to come to the US.
Who is talking about illegal immigration? This thread is about legal visa holders following the law.
I’m an immigrant to the US. I knew the risk that at any time the rules could change and I’ll be headed to my home country.