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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by baron816 »

lambdas wrote: post #128
baron816 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever not been able to send your kids to school for weeks (or years in the case of COVID) because the teachers refused to work? Have you ever been unable to get timely medical treatment because nurses refused to work? Have you ever been unable to work yourself because the transit workers refused to work?

Well… yeah. But I didn’t blame the employees, I blamed the employer who must have seen the writing on the wall for a long time and yet let it come to this.

Why do you assume unions are always reasonable? Unions in the US have a long history of over reaching and crippling industries and governments.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by ipaddr »

jplusequalt wrote: post #127
baron816 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever not been able to send your kids to school for weeks (or years in the case of COVID) because the teachers refused to work? Have you ever been unable to get timely medical treatment because nurses refused to work? Have you ever been unable to work yourself because the transit workers refused to work?

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So she doesn't enjoy her job and only works there because you can't make up the $15 hour difference between her working in a book store for minimum wage vs her working for $30 an hour? Why don't you take a part time job on the weekend to lighten her load? There are many people who become a nurse because its a calling.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by csallen »

brendoelfrendo wrote: post #108
arjie wrote: post #23

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Personally, I just can’t find it in me to be that self-interested. It’s how other people oppose buildings near them because it blocks their view. I really don’t want to stop other people from writing software. If they want to use AI to do it so be it. That’ll be somewhat detrimental to me perhaps (which isn’t certain), but that’s okay. I’d rather attempt to adapt to a changing world.

This is the first time I've heard someone argue that unionizing is a self-interested pursuit. It's called "collective bargaining" for a reason; workers who cooperate in negotiations with their employers have more leverage than those who negotiate individually. The entire point is to work together for the betterment of the group!

I can't speak for the OP, but I don't think their point was that they're against the self-interested nature of unionizing.

I read it more like they're against trying to stop, hinder, or prevent the use of new technology, simply because it's personally threatening.

And I feel the same way. If I was part of a union, I would believe in the collective bargaining power, but I wouldn't necessarily believe we should use that to pursue every single possible agenda that might benefit us. And I've personally pooled my capital with others in the past in order to achieve certain outcomes. And in those situations I also didn't attempt to reach so far as to limit the totally valid freedoms of others just because I knew it might be better for me.

Acting in the interest of a collective doesn't mean one must also abandon the ethics they usually employ when acting in their solo self interest.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by baron816 »

mattkevan wrote: post #124
baron816 wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever not been able to send your kids to school for weeks (or years in the case of COVID) because the teachers refused to work? Have you ever been unable to get timely medical treatment because nurses refused to work? Have you ever been unable to work yourself because the transit workers refused to work?

Maybe if employers offered better working conditions and salaries people wouldn’t feel the need to go on strike?

People have this right to take better jobs at other companies. This is how we get better working conditions: competition between employers. Tech has figured this out. I’ve never felt the need to go on strike.

Unions can be a deterrent to this. If you have sectoral bargaining, you can’t get a better deal anywhere because everyone pays the same. Or even if it’s within a single company, you’re just stuck with whatever scheme the union bosses agreed to.

But also, unions are a deterrent to new employers since fewer people want to start companies in industries where unions have taken over. They’re a nightmare to deal with. Fewer employers means less competition means worse services.

We have a dynamic economy with lots of competition. It’s easy to switch jobs and find a better place to work. We should not want to give this up.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by jorl17 »

fl4regun wrote: post #39
fg137 wrote: post #13

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It is in their business interest to ignore Firefox.

Then they aren't doing a very good job of it. >Firefox makes up about 90 percent of Mozilla’s revenue, according to Muhlheim, the finance chief for the organization’s for-profit arm — which in turn helps fund the nonprofit Mozilla Foundation. About 85 percent of that revenue comes from its deal with Google, he added. https://www.theverge.com/news/660548/firefox-google-search-r...

What people usually say is that Google merely wants Firefox to survive for anti-competitive reasons. Presumably that does not necessitate it actually being used (or be usable).

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by chung8123 »

tiagod wrote: post #60
moscoe wrote: post #22

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Sounds like a perfect application of AI. Some jobs should be automated.

I would rather hear human voices than synthesized ones. I don't care how realistic they sound. I'm not alone, and the sentiment will certainly grow.

As long as there are enough people than there will be a market. I think there are a lot of people that prefer human but don't want the human cost.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by binary132 »

jackdoe wrote: post #111
brendoelfrendo wrote: post #108

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This is the first time I've heard someone argue that unionizing is a self-interested pursuit. It's called "collective bargaining" for a reason; workers who cooperate in negotiations with their employers have more leverage than those who negotiate individually. The entire point is to work together for the betterment of the group!

their point is while the 'group' wins, the rest of the world loses. localized gains, distributed loss.

There is no moral imperative to help the world reach an optimum. Rather, the world is full of competing interests.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by unified101 »

ChickeNES wrote: post #136
ianmarcinkowski wrote: post #104

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I would pay a few actors (mostly Star Trek TNG cast) money for a license to their voice. I don't know how the next generation of beloved actors comes about and how we don't descend into a pit of neverending photocopies of things people once loved in the 1990s/2000s.

> I don't know how the next generation of beloved actors comes about To me it's been obvious for a while now: there won't be one

"Celebrity" is an old world concept, and does not need to exist. it's find if we don't have them

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by doctorpangloss »

jarjoura wrote: post #140
Nihilartikel wrote: post #74

I let myself get mildly excited with the last Omni release, but it turns out it (and this one) can't do the one practical thing I want - Sync generated video to provided pre-existing audio. Meanwhile, I'm happily using Minimax H3 locally on my 12Gb 4070RTX to finally finish the lip syncing to recorded dialog on my abandoned 20 year old Flash animation hobby projects.

Pretty sure I heard one of the PMs in a podcast a few weeks ago say they are intentionally not building support for it out of concerns of enabling deep-fakes. I agree though. My issue is the cost for using AI video models is way too high for anyone not building anything serious with them, at the same time they are too restricted for actually using professionally. Prompting them with text to get something generated is…

Deepfakes are kind of the point though.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by ameliaquining »

dzonga wrote: post #97
lambda wrote: post #4

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Many screen and voice actors are unionized, and the unions have been striking and bargaining specifcially over these points. For example: https://sites.suffolk.edu/jhtl/2025/10/30/game-over-for-unau... Software developers, unfortunately, have been convinced that they don't need to unionize, so have no collective bargaining power for dealing with situations like this.

I don't think software developers need to unionize - but to form French style co-ops. e.g a lot of video game studios even the AAA ones could be co-ops. same as a lot of SAAS software companies. Linear - just announced a tender offer. I don't see a reason - why linear couldn't work as a co-op.

Are the employees supposed to front the capital themselves?
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