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Zohran and the Short Link

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Re: Zohran and the Short Link

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The closest I could find to that claim was a Townhall article¹ mentioning that he posed for a picture with an imam whose mosque was attende by terrorists. Townhall as in the conservative radio/news site and not the NYC town hall.

1. https://townhall.com/news/jeff-charles/2025/10/20/fbi-agents...

Re: Zohran and the Short Link

#192

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Brings to mind this: https://x.com/NYCMayor/status/1971618033115550180

Ha! That is genuinely confusing for a moment. What is the solution? Wipe the account and archive it all somewhere? That destroys all the meta-commentary that exists in other Tweets. Maybe just some system that lets you mark all previous posts with something that says "This account is for a government official. This post was made under the tenure of a prior holder of this position."

While clunky, I think what you suggest is the best method.

Re: Zohran and the Short Link

#193

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My man, you're posting this project all over the HN comments, but I think you need to step back and really think about what you're building and what the user experience is. Your link to an example protocol: https://dohmh.codify.nyc/protocol/71776 makes basically zero sense to me. Similarly the program page. What do you expect someone clicking on these links to take away from them?

Damn, thats stings but...totally fair so here is a basic breakdown - 1. A user would start at https://dohmh.codify.nyc and say and say whatever their intent is, e.g.: "I think I got food poisoning" or "I think I have COVID" etc... 2. The system would then either find a program for that intent or help the user make a protocol to reach their desired outcome (for that intent). 3. The program is a set of modules like: As…

> https://dohmh.codify.nyc

Why are you using a voice recognition box instead of just a plain old search bar? It took me a second to realize what's even going on and I backed out because I ain't giving you microphone access. If people want to use voice input all phone operating systems already have that. I'd really not want to talk about my symptoms if my throat is sore from covid too.

Then I found some of the actual protocols on your website, like the "Dohmh Weight And Health." I don't understand a single thing going on on that page. Why does clicking something that looks like a video play button take me to a page with a chatbot? Why is there a list of "policy makers" on the side? I am being shown eight steps and they all look like "health Context HealthContextAgent blah blah." What am I even looking at???

I don't want to be rude but this feels a textbook example of having too many tokens on your account and too little understanding of the problems you are trying to solve.

Re: Zohran and the Short Link

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Damn, thats stings but...totally fair so here is a basic breakdown - 1. A user would start at https://dohmh.codify.nyc and say and say whatever their intent is, e.g.: "I think I got food poisoning" or "I think I have COVID" etc... 2. The system would then either find a program for that intent or help the user make a protocol to reach their desired outcome (for that intent). 3. The program is a set of modules like: As…

> https://dohmh.codify.nyc Why are you using a voice recognition box instead of just a plain old search bar? It took me a second to realize what's even going on and I backed out because I ain't giving you microphone access. If people want to use voice input all phone operating systems already have that. I'd really not want to talk about my symptoms if my throat is sore from covid too. Then I found some of the actual…

You are NOT at all being rude. I actually feel like I am hitting the jackpot today with this and the previous feedbacks so I would also like to thank you.

I would like to provide some explanation -

0. In prison you cannot always type things on your tablet. Often, we preferred phone / voice interfaces. I am correcting this now; defaulting to text input.

1. My pops was a social service worker for 30 years; he would always explain to me all the repetitive stuff that people had to deal with and how it hurt them so this: "Codify" is meant to be automated workflows that mitigate that barrier. Codification seemed like the best way to do that; I still believe this and its not domain specific, speaking to lack of problem understanding. The agent leads people through the "codified" workflows (aka: Programs).

2. I have no tokens, budget or other; I setup my own local coding ENV so maybe change textbooks, LOL (kidding ofcorse; glut of tokens = AI slop i get it).

3. What am I even looking at??? - When you enter things like "I think I have COVID" into ChatGPT etc.. you get a wall of text that people don't want to read. When people go here https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-main.page - same thing. What you are looking at is my attempt to turn these walls of text into real automated workflows that have agents and HITL's guide them from an intent to an outcome. I obviously am not doing that good a job ATM but 2k+m users have completed their programs w/ verified outcomes but thats less than 15% of the programs initiated so your feedback is extremely welcomed and appreciated.

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#196

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I did the non-technical aspects too and yet I'm somehow still just a shmuck doing his job while these guys are geniuses.

You literally only said you made a link shortener, and even now give no indication you understand what aspects of the Mamdani communication strategy are being praised.

There is nothing to praise here because this is the obvious pattern. Doing anything else would have been incompetence. So yes he gets credit for hiring a competent dev, but to call him a genius for this is venturing into fanboyism / derangement.

Re: Zohran and the Short Link

#197

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Why would they use a PDS as a source of truth for that? Surely they just have a guy with an excel spreadsheet who posts on all platforms

Poor systems thinking. They'd likely use Buffer or a similar social media management platform. Operating their own PDS means they control the source of truth, just like running their own Wordpress instance. Could they pay someone else to host the PDS? Sure, that works too. Either way, it is about controlling their communications infra.

Ok so why would they use a PDS instead of using Buffer?

Re: Zohran and the Short Link

#198

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Saved you a Bing: "Taqiyya is the act of concealing one's religious beliefs and practices when faced with persecution or threat." So basically this commenter is projecting, because that is all that far right people do, calling themselves "libertarians" or "free speech supporters" or "apolitical" etc.

The correct description is that under taqiyya, Muslims can, do, are expected to, and celebrate outright lying about their intentions and goals if it furthers the spreading of Islam. It’s literally in the book, there are no moderate versions of the book. You can be mad, you can think I’m lying, but it’s right there. Lol, when I first got to my first Islamic country, it was explained to me as a nice outreach program, t…

Is it possible that you are lying about your intentions and goals right now?

Re: Zohran and the Short Link

#199

I have been working on something for NYC. Its not ready yet but its basically an AI-native DOHMH. I took all of these https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics.page and turned them into guided protocols, staffed w/ the required agents and HITL. Here are the "Programs" - https://dohmh.codify.nyc/programs example protocol: https://dohmh.codify.nyc/protocol/71776 I was hoping it would be enough to stand out and…

Stop what you are doing and please for the love of god waste your time and tokens on something, anything else before you get yourself fined.

Who is Alister Martin and why would I willingly verbally tell this page my medical or mental health symptoms? What kind of data protections does this LLM have against erroneously sharing HIPAA PHI, because that alone looks like a HIPAA violation waiting to happen. Am I signing a HIPAA release form to allow Alister to share my Protected Health Information with the Counselors, SMEs, clinics, and clinicians it finds?

If you have not even conisdered HIPAA compliance, which it looks like you haven't, now that you've been made aware that this needs addressed it can be considered neglect and YOU ARE RISKING UP TO A $73,000 FINE PER HIPAA VIOLATION!!!!

The protocol is a mess that seems to have nothing for the user to actually do, and is full of what are apparently prompts to an LLM? It's laid out like a flowchart, but it has absolutely no intuitive or indicated flow. When I click on things it's locked. How exactly is protocol population relevant to staying healthy? Why on earth would I ever hand my medical history over to an LLM?

What is this site supposed to actually do? When I click start program I get brought to what looks like an LLM dev environment, not a step-by-step program to follow. Am I supposed to give it all my personal information and medical history then tell it I want to kill myself so it can recommend mental hygiene like getting better sleep and trying to avoid noise in NYC, or tell me it's ok, that I'm not ending it all, and that I will be joining it in the digital afterlife?

You're really trusting these agents to make the determination that someone is in crisis? When I'm in crisis, I shut down. I'm not reaching for my phone or laptop. I don't even interact with my loved ones in that state; interacting with a chatbot who tells me to call 988 would be the very thing that makes me actually kill myself. It's already insulting enough when I'm googling my thoughts trying to find other real people who have dealt with them and gotten through and it takes up the whole page to tell me to call some person ignorant of my situation so they can say "damn that's crazy, don't kill yourself tho it gets better" for 40 minutes while I sob.

Nobody wants or needs AI-native "Mental Hygiene". The product is giving vulnerable people AI psychosis. The very last thing that should be introduced is an "AI" "mental health resource" from a trusted government agency.

I truly, sincerely hope the PIT crew saw AI-native and put you on a permanent blacklist.

The site is not well built in any sense of the word. Have YOU even used the site, critically, as though you were seeing it for the first time? It is befuddling at best, and actively confusing on main. The site is not navigable, because there is no top bar, hamburger menu, or nav links anywhere on the Program page.

When I visit the programs link (which is inaccessible from any page but itself or a protocol page), and then go to the second page of programs, the link turns into this monstrosity: https://dohmh.codify.nyc/programs/0-all/0-all/0-all/0-all/0-...

What is the purpose of the 8 load bearing '0-all's? If I remove one of them, I get a page with no programs. They don't stack by what page of results you're on, that's the number at the end. Then you also handle sort and popularity sort in the URL (with popularity sort cryptically using one of the last two '0-all's for some reason), indicating that those are SSR pages, but upon inspection, the sorted data is provided as a JSON payload parsed by your page script. Why change the URL if you are getting the data via JSON payload from the server? Why not just hydrate the data within the structure of the page and show a UI indicator for the current sort (which you currently do NOT do at all for popularity).

"Browse through thousands of programs" > There are 212. I dunno about you, but I'm pretty sure you're a significant digit short there. I learned that thousand had four digits, not three, when I was 4 years old.

While inspecting I found the structure behind that URL above: "pages/programs/_category/_tag/_level/_signs/_time/_access/_order/_popular/_search/index", but that doesn't explain why the category,level, signs, time or access are '0-all', or what that indicates for the page.....OH MY GOD! is the /_signs/ section of that URL so that you can URL-encode what currency symbol (price sign, as you put it) to use, such as dollar sign, Euro, Pound???!! Please tell me this is not the case.

I don't even want to see the source code for this. I could almost guarantee you have hardcoded secrets and credentials in the running production codebase.

I'm sorry, I know that this strays pretty far from the HN guidelines and ethos but I just can't restrain myself here. This is so unbelievably, utterly dispiriting as someone who's cared about technology and it's development and good practices for much of my life. I can't approach this with anything but a sharp tongue and critical eye, because if you won't look at it yourself (and you didn't), someone else has to tell you what they see.

Re: Zohran and the Short Link

#200

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The correct description is that under taqiyya, Muslims can, do, are expected to, and celebrate outright lying about their intentions and goals if it furthers the spreading of Islam. It’s literally in the book, there are no moderate versions of the book. You can be mad, you can think I’m lying, but it’s right there. Lol, when I first got to my first Islamic country, it was explained to me as a nice outreach program, t…

Is it possible that you are lying about your intentions and goals right now?

Don’t take my word for it. You could do even the slightest bit of research about the noble and righteousness of lying under the cover of taqiyya, or, go spend some time in Islamic countries.

I’m sorry, I’m too pro-women’s and gay rights to get mixed up supporting people who want nothing less than those two things. Classic ideologue though, attack the messenger while avoiding the topic as hard as possible.

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