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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by genericone »

12ags-18276 wrote: post #14
embedding-shape wrote: post #10

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> it's hilarious to see some people here go on about how they're proud to work so that they can be replaced To be fair, most of us spent our entire career trying our best to automate ourselves away one way or another, and always seen that as our job description.

No, that is just nerd heroism lore that indeed has always shown up in comments, that part is definitely true. Some people dislike automation altogether and like the computational aspect. Most people seem to enjoy constructing virtual worlds and Rube Goldberg machines.

I thought HN was mostly people who hated doing 'the thing' and would procrastinate until they build a system that does 'the thing' and then they would work tirelessly to never do 'the thing' themselves ever again.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by oblio »

zamadatix wrote: post #20
r_lee wrote: post #6

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it's hilarious to see some people here go on about how they're proud to work so that they can be replaced I think too many just expect that they can get by like before because they're a 10x engineer or whatever

I think I sit somewhere between these two descriptions. I've always supported unions and other "for the common good" type machinery. At the same time, I desperately also don't want to end up doing something the equivalent of barring the use of calculators just so I can toil away at a 9-5 crunching numbers more slowly instead. If AI really does replace all of the meaningful jobs we can do... great - I'd rather we make…

> I'd rather we make sure the spoils of that production are distributed than try to cling to preventing the technology from being used.

Spoiler alert: unions can help with that.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by oblio »

moscoe wrote: post #22
petcat wrote: post #2

I heard a radio spot recently and I wondered if the voice was a real person or AI. It makes we wonder how such industries are dealing with this gen-AI revolution. We spend a lot of time here thinking about how it affects software developers, but I hardly ever see any commentary on how it is affecting screen and voice actors.

Sounds like a perfect application of AI. Some jobs should be automated.

Ok, let's go the other way round. Which jobs do you think should not be automated?

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by Nihilartikel »

I let myself get mildly excited with the last Omni release, but it turns out it (and this one) can't do the one practical thing I want - Sync generated video to provided pre-existing audio.

Meanwhile, I'm happily using Minimax H3 locally on my 12Gb 4070RTX to finally finish the lip syncing to recorded dialog on my abandoned 20 year old Flash animation hobby projects.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by isoprophlex »

lambda wrote: post #4
petcat wrote: post #2

I heard a radio spot recently and I wondered if the voice was a real person or AI. It makes we wonder how such industries are dealing with this gen-AI revolution. We spend a lot of time here thinking about how it affects software developers, but I hardly ever see any commentary on how it is affecting screen and voice actors.

Many screen and voice actors are unionized, and the unions have been striking and bargaining specifcially over these points. For example: https://sites.suffolk.edu/jhtl/2025/10/30/game-over-for-unau... Software developers, unfortunately, have been convinced that they don't need to unionize, so have no collective bargaining power for dealing with situations like this.

And thus the developers remain, until this very moment, ionized.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by oblio »

WarmWash wrote: post #65
fg137 wrote: post #13

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It is in their business interest to ignore Firefox.

Google is so internally fractured, and the factions individually are so powerful, that it's really only the chrome people who care about chrome. If anything FF gets left out because usage is so low.

> If anything FF gets left out because usage is so low.

I've been following this for a long time. They were leaving Firefox out when its usage wasn't low.

Probably the typical backdoor executive mandate that led to death by "sprint prioritization":

Yes, we will for sure work on the Firefox compatibility bug, Dave-Open-Source-Enthusiast-Google-Dev.

But we can only pick up 10 bugfixing tickets this sprint and the ticket you highlighted, as the entire team agrees, is priority #12.

Death by slow asphyxiation.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by guilhermeasper »

SimianSci wrote: post #30
guilhermeasper wrote: post #18

Google does anything except launch a new version of Gemini Pro.

Just because Anthropic and OpenAI really want there to be an arms race justifying the outsized investment, doesn't mean the optimal play is to build larger, more expensive, models. The capital infusion the frontier labs have received has gotten to a size where many believe it may not be possible to recoup this investment without some very unrealistic things happening. I think it's reasonable to not completely drain o…

Yes, I agree with you that the race all the AI companies are running doesn't make sense, but at the same time, there are rumors that Google has produced newer versions of Pro without releasing them to the public.

Version 3.1 has plenty of room for improvement, yet they don't seem to be giving the attention it deserves or at least communicating accordingly.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by static_motion »

sva_ wrote: post #42
fg137 wrote: post #13

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It is in their business interest to ignore Firefox.

Hot take: Google keeps Mozilla/Firefox alive through the default search engine placement (which makes Mozilla millions each year) so they don't get designated as a monopoly with their browser.

That's not a hot take, that's just factual.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by msabalau »

rcr-anti wrote: post #67

It certainly makes for easy demos, but I always struggle with the practical application. As in, what work or enjoyment does someone actually get from this? Ads and media pre production seem plausible, but it fails the 'how can this enrich life' in a way most other AI tools don't. Maybe for them that's not a consideration, if their only interest is the other meaning of enrich that might flow from ads and numbing river…

Yes, most people using AI for creative projects spend a lot of time and attention mastering their tools, and figure out how to adapt them into their creative processes. AI can dramatically lower the cost of indie productions, while also a allowing a broader range of stories to be told. Even the most successful film makers need to bow and scrape to get their projects funded, democratizing visual media can be a good thing, even if you, personally, are no more likely to do this than you are to pick up Photoshop or record a podcast.

I enjoy making short films with AI. When my latest short screens at a festival in Ocotber, alongside traditional and AI films, hopefully the audience will like it too.

The quick "one shot" video generation might be slop to you, or I. But if someone wants to send it as birthday greeting to their aunt, and they both enjoy it, what business is it of ours?

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Post by oblio »

Vinnl wrote: post #62
sva_ wrote: post #42

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Hot take: Google keeps Mozilla/Firefox alive through the default search engine placement (which makes Mozilla millions each year) so they don't get designated as a monopoly with their browser.

And of course they're doing the same for Apple/Safari, which wouldn't survive without the $20 million default search engine placement deal.

> And of course they're doing the same for Apple/Safari, which wouldn't survive without the $20 million default search engine placement deal.

Billion with a B, as in 10 zeroes, not 7.

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