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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Height limiting is anti-progress, which was his point.

Ok SF needs somewhat higher-density housing. But wanting something good for yourself and your peers isn't anti-progress. If the benefits accrue to only a few people, it's not progress.

> But wanting something good for yourself and your peers isn't anti-progress.

It is if it makes it worse for everyone else.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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I heard a radio spot recently and I wondered if the voice was a real person or AI. It makes we wonder how such industries are dealing with this gen-AI revolution. We spend a lot of time here thinking about how it affects software developers, but I hardly ever see any commentary on how it is affecting screen and voice actors.

I'm really sad about how little creative control these tools have. They seem great for creating slop, but pretty useless for creating content that someone would love. I love the potential but text isn't really a great medium for describing artistic vision.

All these demos are focused on how easy it makes everything. Easy is great, but if everyone is able to make instant cute cat videos or whatever it just devalues it. I want to see turning a photo into a rigged 3d model, letting the artist animate and then generate the video. This technology could be used to increase creative expression, but instead it's being used to squeeze out creative expression

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

#53

Google does anything except launch a new version of Gemini Pro.

Just because Anthropic and OpenAI really want there to be an arms race justifying the outsized investment, doesn't mean the optimal play is to build larger, more expensive, models. The capital infusion the frontier labs have received has gotten to a size where many believe it may not be possible to recoup this investment without some very unrealistic things happening. I think it's reasonable to not completely drain o…

And it doesn't have to be either/or. They could make larger, more expensive models, just at a slower cadence.

Sure downside would be not learning from people using your model for coding, if we're on the cusp of huge leaps in self-improvement. But there is a reasonable case for avoiding desperate scramble, especially if other parts of the business can also create value with the compute.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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post #2

I heard a radio spot recently and I wondered if the voice was a real person or AI. It makes we wonder how such industries are dealing with this gen-AI revolution. We spend a lot of time here thinking about how it affects software developers, but I hardly ever see any commentary on how it is affecting screen and voice actors.

recently I encountered several youtubers in the uncanny valley of "is it Ai or really repetitive intonation pattern"

one youtuber used irl footage, with hands and stuff - so I know there's human behind the camera

the other was a letsplay that reacted to events just fine emotionally

and yet the uncanny valley of the sound is in full force. Maybe youtube has done something with the codecs?

I feel sad

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

#55
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Height limiting is anti-progress, which was his point.

Ok SF needs somewhat higher-density housing. But wanting something good for yourself and your peers isn't anti-progress. If the benefits accrue to only a few people, it's not progress.

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Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

#56

Google does anything except launch a new version of Gemini Pro.

Just because Anthropic and OpenAI really want there to be an arms race justifying the outsized investment, doesn't mean the optimal play is to build larger, more expensive, models. The capital infusion the frontier labs have received has gotten to a size where many believe it may not be possible to recoup this investment without some very unrealistic things happening. I think it's reasonable to not completely drain o…

Google paid for 3.5 Pro training. They just didn't release it.

They never gave an official answer as to why, so I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

They did not decide it wasn't worth spending the money to train.

They absolutely spent the money.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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post #24

Interesting that OpenAI abandoned Sora entirely but Google are continuing to invest heavily in their own video generation. Maybe because they see video generation as key to developing "world models"?

This is paid API access only. They are here to make money not to position themselves for an IPO. Not a value judgement only an observation.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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I'm still getting major uncanny valley from any of the videos featuring humans, something about them disgusts me. I guess I should be glad I'm still able to distinguish them.

You knew upfront that it was generated. I did too so the first thing I did was look at the lips of the actors convincing myself that there were flaws.

When it comes to fish swimming around I don't think I would be able to reliably tell what was real vs generated even with deep inspection.

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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post #2

I heard a radio spot recently and I wondered if the voice was a real person or AI. It makes we wonder how such industries are dealing with this gen-AI revolution. We spend a lot of time here thinking about how it affects software developers, but I hardly ever see any commentary on how it is affecting screen and voice actors.

It'll come quickly for audio books. I've been working on a locally hosted, fully containerized web application to narrate my sci-fi novel using a full cast of characters and a few distinct narrators:

* https://i.ibb.co/ccqKZ71L/keenlore.png

* https://i.ibb.co/1t3W0JqZ/keenlore-02.png

* https://i.ibb.co/LdBqHwKB/keenlore-03.png

Re: Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash

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post #22
post #2

I heard a radio spot recently and I wondered if the voice was a real person or AI. It makes we wonder how such industries are dealing with this gen-AI revolution. We spend a lot of time here thinking about how it affects software developers, but I hardly ever see any commentary on how it is affecting screen and voice actors.

Sounds like a perfect application of AI. Some jobs should be automated.

I would rather hear human voices than synthesized ones. I don't care how realistic they sound. I'm not alone, and the sentiment will certainly grow.
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