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Suica, Japan's First IC Transit Card

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Re: Suica, Japan's First IC Transit Card

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> fast What are y'all comparing it with? I’ve tried to find videos online but they all seem… normal?

It's normal speed for a transit card. in that you can tap and walk without slowing down.

But it's really quite fast compared to more general balance card services like NFC/tap to pay, etc.

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If you haven’t experienced suica, it’s like magically fast. Faster than NFC, faster than Apple Pay, faster than tap to pay, faster than Disney magic bands, faster than your work badge. It absolutely floored me every time I used it in Japan and it’s a full payment transaction.

The card might be fast but getting one as a tourist is kind of a hassle

I've been able to get multiple over the past nearly 10 years, very easily. I think there was a relatively brief shortage toward the end of the COVID closure, maybe the first year or so Japan was re-opened. But generally you could still get them, just not at major hubs.

Re: Suica, Japan's First IC Transit Card

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I was hoping the author would also discuss a bit more about the security / encryption side of it. If transactions are done only between the card and the reader, could one use a reader at home to alter the balance? If you can load the card on you phone I assume you can use the phone to read it, but that might not be true.

Anyway it was a great read! Glad to see somebody writing without (obvious) use of LLMs.

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Huge shout out that if you are going to be in Japan, you need one of these cards. I had thought I could just buy a two day pass in Tokyo. Which, you can, but you are almost certainly going to be limited to what routes and lines you can use, then. Which is brutal when you can't tell google maps which card you have.

What happened to buying a single ticket at the station, when you need one? That's what I did when I was in Tokyo, but it was a long time ago

If you're doing any transfers it could get reasonably complicated. SUICA makes those easy, unless you need a recharge to top it up.

Re: Suica, Japan's First IC Transit Card

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you should probably just get a suica in your apple or google wallet, you don’t actually need an IC card. I’m not sure if using a phone makes it less fast though, I couldn’t tell (we had to get a card for my kid since he doesn’t have a phone). Definitely better than the QR codes used by China.

You can use a digital Suica in Google Wallet only if your Android phone has Japan-spec hardware . International Android phones bought outside Japan generally cannot support digital Suica cards in Google Wallet.

All iPhones can.

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#76
>Project leader Akio Shiibashi originally set a symbolic launch target: January 1, 2001, the first day of the new millennium.

I'm getting off-topic here, but I really appreciate it when people get this date right.

Re: Suica, Japan's First IC Transit Card

#78
I’ve visited Tokyo four times, and I’ve been using the same Suica card since my very first trip! I love it, and I’d really like to collect all the Suica-like cards, such as PASMO, ICOCA, Kitaca, and more.

I love it when little everyday things bring a tiny bit of happiness and color into daily life. (for more info: https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2359_003.html)

Re: Suica, Japan's First IC Transit Card

#79

How is it different from the Oyster card in London?

Suica works virtually everywhere https://www.jreast.co.jp/multi/suicamoney/shop.html

Imagine if you could pay with the Oyster card everywhere from Tesco to Greggs to National Rail to Uber

Actually you can find some small family shops, restaurants etc where they don't accept credit cards but Suica only

Re: Suica, Japan's First IC Transit Card

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Same deal with Opal in Sydney - the old school opal card processes a second or so faster than a card/apple pay/google pay that you can just keep walking. Smashed into the barrier the one time I forgot my card.

I’ve never noticed any delay on the London underground with Apple Pay or a normally debit card - certainly not a second. Havent used an oyster for years but I don’t remember it being faster.

Maybe I am just plainly wrong or encountered some specific stations, but this does not feel true from my experience.

During my last visit to London (in 2025), it felt noticeably slower than even NYC subway tap-to-pay.

Suica is a whole other beast that isn't even in the same category of speed. It genuinely feels sub-200ms instantaneous.

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