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Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Post by r_lee »

smj-edison wrote: post #48
sethd wrote: post #45

A lot of these “Claudeisms” are simply jargon I’ve seen or heard firsthand myself while working at tech companies. I don’t think it’s limited to Claude either; I’ve seen Codex use load-bearing and many of these phrases as well. I think using agents is just like speedrunning the whole experience of working with technical coworkers. Whereas you might have had a few coworkers at your company who used some of these phras…

I like to imagine that there's this one employee that oversees RHLF, who has a particular style of writing, and that got so ingrained that it's just them x1000.

I remember asking claude in claude code why the "seams" and it instantly in very fine detail said how it's from a book on working with legacy code

so they might be RLHFing on these specific approaches and then it becomes the entire model

just an anecdote but I found it interesting how it went full on that it's from that book vs just "it's technical jargon"

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Post by udbhavs »

Labo333 wrote: post #21

Author here! Grateful for the kind words, human communities like HN really hit differently when you spend the whole day chatting with sycophantic and bullshitting agents (including to make this page). I'm currently adding a search bar as well as increasing the data to 1000 PR per day. A nice thing that is not obvious on the main page is that the dataset and analysis are updated daily using Github Actions (at least wh…

Very cool! I'm trying to understand the graph, so the bottom-most section seems to be the cluster identifying Claude written PRs. What are the other 7, any reason there are 8 in total?

I've been scraping instagram posts recently to identify AI misinformation accounts that all repost each other's carousels and get hundreds of thousands of likes in engagement. Thinking of ways to present it and your dashboard looks very helpful. Did you experiment with any other types of visualizations before deciding on a stacked area chart for the clusters?

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Post by thewebguyd »

rsanheim wrote: post #71
threecheese wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the enterprise, we are already adopting them. “Seam”, I term I’d never heard used before, is now not only our defacto way to describe the boundary between systems/workflows/components, it is encoded into our organizational roles and responsibilities descriptions. I am the proud owner of several seams, and am considering giving them person-names. The empty space between my inventory APIs and their clients might be…

"seam" dates back to refactoring & software engineering literature that pre-date LLM use by 20 years -- see Working Effectively With Legacy Code for one example ( https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/working-effectively-wit... ). Its a great book, still use techniques from it everyday. "load-bearing" I have never heard used for programming before Opus, and its incredibly annoying and over-used.

load-bearing was/is used frequently on the ops side of things, I assume the LLMs picked up from physical engineering texts or sysadmin type blogs.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Post by jelkand »

Labo333 wrote: post #11
nater5000 wrote: post #4

I was pleasantly surprised when I attempted to scroll down and realized everything the author wanted to present fit on-screen. It's almost ironic that this site is able to make such an obvious, compelling presentation without being overly verbose or complicated (something which LLMs have a hard time doing). I wouldn't read TOO deeply into what is being presented, but the author has done a good job to not inject their…

Author here :) Thank you for the compliment! I did spend a lot of time designing a nice experience on both desktop and mobile. Even the scrollbar to select words was non trivial as I wanted the words to be of different size, yet avoid flickering when scrolling!

I just wanted to pop in and say that I found the site delightful. It’s aesthetic, concise, and everything works so quickly and responsively.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Post by applfanboysbgon »

Everyone talks about Claude, but I'd like to bitch about Sol. "Unusually" is its absolute favorite word in the chat interface (less so in Codex), and I fucking hate it. Every single thing is unusually something. "Unusually good", "unusually efficient", "unusually inexpensive", "unusually attractive", "unusually difficult", "unusually nasty", "unusually cacheable", "unusually interesting", "unusually decisive", "unusually narrow", I'm surprised I haven't seen "unusually unusual". If I search chat history for "unusually" it brings up every single fucking chat I have from before I added it to an illegal words instruction. I can't believe I haven't seen anyone else complaining about this, it's as pervasive if not moreso than anything I've seen from Claude.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Post by NoDodgeQuestion »

r_lee wrote: post #81
smj-edison wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like to imagine that there's this one employee that oversees RHLF, who has a particular style of writing, and that got so ingrained that it's just them x1000.

I remember asking claude in claude code why the "seams" and it instantly in very fine detail said how it's from a book on working with legacy code so they might be RLHFing on these specific approaches and then it becomes the entire model just an anecdote but I found it interesting how it went full on that it's from that book vs just "it's technical jargon"

AI model does not know special insight into how model itself was trained. All it tells you is it's prediction of expected explanation.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Post by voidfunc »

threecheese wrote: post #60
bogdanoff_2 wrote: post #53

To all the people in the HN comments saying negative things about Claude: why don't you just use other models instead?

Claude is all we have at $work, if you don’t count MS Copilot (and you shouldn’t count MS Copilot). Imagine being “incentivized” to aggressively use a tool for your job, and that tool produces thousands of lines of text in Olde English which you need. You’d be griping too, methinks.

Copilot is fine? Just use it through whatever harness you want like OpenCode.

Re: Show HN: The load-bearing vocabulary of Claude

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Post by c7b »

Labo333 wrote: post #11
nater5000 wrote: post #4

I was pleasantly surprised when I attempted to scroll down and realized everything the author wanted to present fit on-screen. It's almost ironic that this site is able to make such an obvious, compelling presentation without being overly verbose or complicated (something which LLMs have a hard time doing). I wouldn't read TOO deeply into what is being presented, but the author has done a good job to not inject their…

Author here :) Thank you for the compliment! I did spend a lot of time designing a nice experience on both desktop and mobile. Even the scrollbar to select words was non trivial as I wanted the words to be of different size, yet avoid flickering when scrolling!

Congratulations! I was going to comment on the scroll field in particular when I saw this. I didn't even realize you had to hand-craft the component, but it's such a nice UI idea in general, the way the scrolling works and how the content above changes.
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