Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

Post by Flere-Imsaho » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 4:52 PM UTC

microsoftedging wrote: post #224

savwolf wrote: post #43

This is what really makes me question if I want to continue to use GOS, already some UK banks apps (which are app only) don't want to run. I'm considering switching back to stock as I can't be bothered to try to find hacks and workarounds for daily necessities.

Same experience in the UK, but it was the push that got me to switch from Lloyds to Nationwide if you're looking for another option. They're great, they even have offline 2FA methods as they send you a card reader for things like authing purchases or sign-ins. And the app still works :-)

Post by drabbiticus » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 4:58 PM UTC

carlosjobim wrote: post #220

drabbiticus wrote: post #184

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This seems likely to be cultural, possibly even microcultural. I know many adults who believe that splitting bills is a normal and reasonable thing to do.

Splitting bills, where each pay a part in the restaurant, fine. Splitting bills where one pays and the other sends him money, not.

Post by DANmode » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 5:00 PM UTC

nekusar wrote: post #221

DANmode wrote: post #217

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> GrapheneOS is anti-user-freedom. This is a really, really poor-quality take. > complaints of this nature get inane drivel responses of "lol just fork Graphene" It’s a fork of AOSP, which you can just…use.

Uh, no. Shaming a "take" is just tone policing. Owners should own the hardware along with the software both. Its only since the smartphone era (2008) with locked down shit devices has this view changed. And people challenging this are somehow defective, tone policed, shamed, or likewise. GrapheneOS users are treated as 'rooted phones', at the exact same time tools that would attack and prevent corporate surveillance…

Post by BobaFloutist » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 5:01 PM UTC

RunSet wrote: post #165

fluidcruft wrote: post #47

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Generally I think the issue is that there's a tension between your security vs Paypal's security (deliberate, motivated bad actors). Maybe an analogy could be about using metal detectors as a layer to reduce bank robberies. A gun in a good guy's hands is a good thing to prevent robberies. Guns in a bad guy's hands are a bad thing to prevent robberies. Paypal knows you have a gun but they don't know if you're a good g…

> Maybe an analogy could be about using metal detectors as a layer to reduce bank robberies. A more apt analogy might be game developers who demand admin rights so they can install a rootkit to detect "cheating".

Post by dinfinity » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 5:03 PM UTC

dvoros wrote: post #102

zerof1l wrote: post #8

I see this happen from time to time. Lately, almost all of the apps work fine on GrapheneOS. The best strategy is to keep writing the business once every two or so weeks that you can’t log in to and use the app. Don’t go too technical at first, because most of the time, the moment they hear things like “rooted” or “unofficial,” they just say your phone is the issue. To date, I was able to convince, or at least contri…

I had the same experience. Asked in an email why an important government app won't work on GrapheneOS, first without any technical details. Got the response that it's "because security". I sent some technical details and argued that they're denying service to their most security-conscious users. 3 months later the app started to work!