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Post by mindslight »

lynndotpy wrote: post #39
mindslight wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"ZOG" claims way too much, is inactionable, and ultimately just feeds the reactionary dumpster fire that has created our current predicament. "Please don't release the real Epstein files Mr Bibi Sir" suffices.

Right? It's really concerning how much traction "ZOG" seems to be getting. It's literally true that most of the US government is Zionist. But "Zionist-Occupied Government" is an antisemitic conspiracy theory used by white supremacists with specific and incorrect beliefs about how Zionism works in the US and how it formed into what we're all facing today. At least flat-earthers get a useful locally-true approximation…

It's fucking heads they win, tails we lose. The only way we can win is to walk a narrow line, and in the presence of populism that is seemingly impossible. How much support for Grump was because "Biden supports genocide" ? Of course it's hard to tell how much was genuine grassroots vs dead Internet, but surely there were some voters that fell for it. Congratulations, you played yourself.

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Post by tialaramex »

UJ-FLD-ScrTr wrote: post #37

From a European perspective, one has long wondered what this government actually considers NOT to be terrorism. The violent storming of a national symbol of democracy is clearly not one of them. This doesn't exactly make one want to spend their next vacation in the USA – even though, admittedly, we have our own problems here.

The American Right are spending a surprising amount of resources on fucking over Europe. Once piece of good news about a future US economic crash is that there'd be no money left to do that. After Elon gets a tax bill from a new progressive administration whose answer to "You can't tax your way out of America's problems" is either "Well lets at least try" or even "If the effect is just to get rid of the billionaires we're OK with that too" your local racists may find he's too distracted to wire them some more cash for their antics.

But maybe that's just wishful thinking, it's not as though there weren't fascists about, they just didn't have the same funding before.

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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Post by MSFT_Edging »

wl wrote: post #56
physhster wrote: post #25

a̵n̵t̵i̵-̵a̵n̵t̵i̵fa is just fa, no?

Assuming this is a serious question: There are people who are not themselves fascists who object to the direct action tactics (read: violence, vandalism) sometimes employed under the banner of "antifa."

It's always curious to me how property damage weighs the same or worse than violence against real humans.

I've had people tell me with a straight face that broken windows make one group just as bad as the group threatening violence based on ethnic lines. I don't get it.

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Post by Supermancho »

mindslight wrote: post #23
jmclnx wrote: post #5

>Of course, Donald Trump’s successors could keep repressive policies like this in place, much as Joe Biden did. This proves once again who runs the US Gov, it is not the voters but the ultra-rich.

For voters to actually be in control, they would have to do straightforward things like reject the obviously terrible destructionist candidate in favor of the milquetoast corpo stooge. I would love to say it's as principled as "I chose the wrench" from Good Will Hunting. But from everything I've surmised it's that mass media propaganda is really strong - most people simply can't fit more than one thing in their head…

If ranked voting wasn't being outlawed in various states, it might have started the US down the path of tearing down the miserable political duopoly.

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Post by Arodex »

UJ-FLD-ScrTr wrote: post #37

From a European perspective, one has long wondered what this government actually considers NOT to be terrorism. The violent storming of a national symbol of democracy is clearly not one of them. This doesn't exactly make one want to spend their next vacation in the USA – even though, admittedly, we have our own problems here.

>This doesn't exactly make one want to spend their next vacation in the USA – even though, admittedly, we have our own problems here.

Don't worry, Trump and Musk will export their model to Europe. They guys and gals who were easily bought by Russia when it had money will very gladly side with the richest and gaudiest men on Earth.

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Post by lovich »

buellerbueller wrote: post #31
theultdev wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

If MAGA wants lower crime, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants commit crime at lower rates than citizens. [1] If MAGA is pro-economy, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants are more entrepreneurial than US-born citizens. [2] [3]. Why the tariffs? Tariffs are a tax on American consumers. The line of reasoning you present is just completely wrong. Is it because MAGA are wrong/ignorant? Or because MAG…

I think it’s funny that he said

> Don't conflate immigrants with illegal immigrants first off.

When that entirely what MAGA is doing. I always wondered how they had these numbers for supposedly illegal immigrants and everytime I look into it the number conveniently lines up with the legal immigrants and legal asylum seekers.

Or that time Loomer said the alligators at Alligator Alcatraz were getting 65 million meals which is conveniently the Hispanic population in the US.

These people think that just because they don’t like these other people, those other people are here illegally, and then they claim they get no due process either.

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Post by cdrnsf »

astrange wrote: post #60
brettermeier wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why downvoted? It IS a fascist regime you have there in your 1st world shitshow. Get over it and name it as it is.

TESCREAL is a word meaning "a bunch of unrelated groups that Timnit Gebru thinks are nerds", who are not really aligned with the administration. (I also think they're nerds.)

Nerds using untold wealth to inflict fringe beliefs on societies at scale can do plenty of harm.

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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Post by beej71 »

austin-cheney wrote: post #6

They really don't have to call a group far left or far right in their justification, because it sounds like weak credibility in search of social support. They could just call them a criminal organization seeking directly, or indirectly, to contribute to violence for political ends, which does not sound like the case here.

> because it sounds like weak credibility in search of social support

And it works!

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