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Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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> intolerant of some opinions You might want to read up on Karl Popper and the Paradox of Tolerance [1] as well as on some German history. Don't give a single inch to fascists or you will get destroyed. Hell, just look at the sorry state of the current GOP after it let the Tea Party looners in. These guys and the "birthers" paved the ground for MAGA to enter the scene, and nowadays what used to be the "moderate" Repu…

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If MAGA wants lower crime, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants commit crime at lower rates than citizens. [1]

If MAGA is pro-economy, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants are more entrepreneurial than US-born citizens. [2] [3]. Why the tariffs? Tariffs are a tax on American consumers.

The line of reasoning you present is just completely wrong. Is it because MAGA are wrong/ignorant? Or because MAGA are racist and fascists?

[1] https://www.aeaweb.org/research/chart/incarceration-immigran...

[2] https://news.mit.edu/2022/study-immigrants-more-likely-start...

[3] https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/fortune-50...

EDIT, sadly the reply is flagged, so I will post my response to it below:

>Don't conflate immigrants with illegal immigrants first off.

The analyses I presented don't make a distinction between legal and illegal immigrants; the facts they state still stand.

>Second, we KNOW a lot of those people they're picking up committed crimes. Murder, rape, etc. They all have charges and are queued for deportation.

And if your concern is about crime, you would want the law enforcement resources that are being used to pick up immigrants to be used to pick up US-born citizens, because US born citizens are more criminal.

>Illegal immigrants are a strain on the healthcare system, education system, policing, social services. It's a simple fact that every country knows.

Wrong again. Immigrants use less of all of those social resources, except public school. Public schools are strained because us-born students are more likely to attend private schools, and public schools are generally funded on a student headcount basis. [4] [5] [6] [7]

>And Tariffs are a consumption tax on if they buy those foreign products. I'll take a trade war if it means getting drug prices and many other trade inequalities down (which he did). Turns out our allies are bigger assholes than our adversaries.

Typically, as reported, there aren't many American substitutes for the foreign-produced goods that have been taxed on tariffs. Just to use a very recent example, American cars now have their canadian auto parts slapped with a 50% tariff. Am I supposed to source my own american parts and then build my own car? What the hell is wrong with you?

>But nah, Democrats must be right about everything. It's impossible to be wrong. Republicans are evil and ignorant is what you probably hear.

Living in a red state, and having many MAGA family members, I am sympathetic to listening to the arguments made by MAGA. However, their claims fall apart when you start looking at facts and data, as I believe I have amply demonstrated through our back-and-forth.

[4] https://www.cato.org/briefing-paper/immigrant-native-consump...

[5] https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/key-fact...

[6] https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

[7] https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/potentia...

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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> Trump is completely torching his term for Israel. That is utter bullshit and you know it. The US government has always been deathly afraid of anything left of what would be "conservative social democrats" in Europe - remember McCarthyism? The US certainly does not need Israel to tell it to hunt down leftists. > Then you'll get your comments removed from this website if you mention the term "ZOG". Because it's a rid…

The link makes it clear (at least to me) that they are looking for Palestine supporters and not leftists in general.

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Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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here's the official state department's statement: https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...

According to that, they provided services to the guys that cut off parts of Berlin from the power grid, that caused 1 fatality. IANAL but the common understanding of the situation would be: You can't as an ISP prevent malicious actors from using your service, but you do can assist the government - in this case the German - to hand over the data to help assist law enforcement. If state-department's claims are true, di…

In italy they were even arrested but always cleared of what they were accused. I don't believe the US gov did a better job investigating them either

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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If MAGA wants lower crime, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants commit crime at lower rates than citizens. [1] If MAGA is pro-economy, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants are more entrepreneurial than US-born citizens. [2] [3]. Why the tariffs? Tariffs are a tax on American consumers. The line of reasoning you present is just completely wrong. Is it because MAGA are wrong/ignorant? Or because MAG…

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Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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From a European perspective, one has long wondered what this government actually considers NOT to be terrorism. The violent storming of a national symbol of democracy is clearly not one of them.

This doesn't exactly make one want to spend their next vacation in the USA – even though, admittedly, we have our own problems here.

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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> intolerant of some opinions You might want to read up on Karl Popper and the Paradox of Tolerance [1] as well as on some German history. Don't give a single inch to fascists or you will get destroyed. Hell, just look at the sorry state of the current GOP after it let the Tea Party looners in. These guys and the "birthers" paved the ground for MAGA to enter the scene, and nowadays what used to be the "moderate" Repu…

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Can you give some examples of the woke/marxist crap?

Trump ran as a republican because he thought it would be easier to sway republicans to vote for him because they're sheeple, and he's on camera saying that and everyone just memory-holed it.

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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"ZOG" claims way too much, is inactionable, and ultimately just feeds the reactionary dumpster fire that has created our current predicament. "Please don't release the real Epstein files Mr Bibi Sir" suffices.

Right? It's really concerning how much traction "ZOG" seems to be getting.

It's literally true that most of the US government is Zionist. But "Zionist-Occupied Government" is an antisemitic conspiracy theory used by white supremacists with specific and incorrect beliefs about how Zionism works in the US and how it formed into what we're all facing today.

At least flat-earthers get a useful locally-true approximation of the shape of the Earth from their conspiracy theory.

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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If MAGA wants lower crime, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants commit crime at lower rates than citizens. [1] If MAGA is pro-economy, why is MAGA kicking out immigrants? Immigrants are more entrepreneurial than US-born citizens. [2] [3]. Why the tariffs? Tariffs are a tax on American consumers. The line of reasoning you present is just completely wrong. Is it because MAGA are wrong/ignorant? Or because MAG…

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The government just shut down processing of legal immigration applications, so yes actually, Trump only wants illegal immigrants, no legal ones.
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