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US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343

More related than dupe, as this article includes a statement from the group being labeled terrorist.

Same discussion. Statement shared over there. No need to split up the discussion.

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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>Of course, Donald Trump’s successors could keep repressive policies like this in place, much as Joe Biden did. This proves once again who runs the US Gov, it is not the voters but the ultra-rich.

For voters to actually be in control, they would have to do straightforward things like reject the obviously terrible destructionist candidate in favor of the milquetoast corpo stooge. I would love to say it's as principled as "I chose the wrench" from Good Will Hunting. But from everything I've surmised it's that mass media propaganda is really strong - most people simply can't fit more than one thing in their head at once. Focus them on how bad A is and they will eagerly choose B all day long despite it being clearly worse.

A long time ago I had the realization that the primary information flow in democracy isn't the few bits from each citizen to the government, but rather it's from the candidates/parties to the people making them think they wanted any of the ensuing shit because they "chose" it. And I'd say Grumpism has thoroughly proven that out. The people who used to be your average conservatives are now radical reactionary destructionists, and if you nudge them to ponder their former values they wince at thinking too hard and then get angry at you.

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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> intolerant of some opinions You might want to read up on Karl Popper and the Paradox of Tolerance [1] as well as on some German history. Don't give a single inch to fascists or you will get destroyed. Hell, just look at the sorry state of the current GOP after it let the Tea Party looners in. These guys and the "birthers" paved the ground for MAGA to enter the scene, and nowadays what used to be the "moderate" Repu…

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Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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> Trump is completely torching his term for Israel. That is utter bullshit and you know it. The US government has always been deathly afraid of anything left of what would be "conservative social democrats" in Europe - remember McCarthyism? The US certainly does not need Israel to tell it to hunt down leftists. > Then you'll get your comments removed from this website if you mention the term "ZOG". Because it's a rid…

The disaster of the Iran war will be the legacy of Trump 2. A war that started because Netanyahu convinced Trump there was an imminent attack and fed us false intel on nuclear capabilities. That sounds like torching it to me.

ZOG as a conspiracy is nuts but you can’t deny the influence AIPAC has on Congress. Zionists have a very powerful lobby. Then you have guys like Fetterman who are making Israel their core issue.

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> intolerant of some opinions You might want to read up on Karl Popper and the Paradox of Tolerance [1] as well as on some German history. Don't give a single inch to fascists or you will get destroyed. Hell, just look at the sorry state of the current GOP after it let the Tea Party looners in. These guys and the "birthers" paved the ground for MAGA to enter the scene, and nowadays what used to be the "moderate" Repu…

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If you want safety and prosperity, why vote in a convicted felon who pardoned thousands of insurrectionists who went on to reoffend and end up back in jail for violent offenses and crimes against children? Why vote for a moronic tariff plan that literally anyone could tell you would hurt the economy? Why vote for corruption and racial violence and sexual abuse? Why vote for a rapist who was best buds with Epstein?

Re: US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

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here's the official state department's statement: https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...

According to that, they provided services to the guys that cut off parts of Berlin from the power grid, that caused 1 fatality.

IANAL but the common understanding of the situation would be: You can't as an ISP prevent malicious actors from using your service, but you do can assist the government - in this case the German - to hand over the data to help assist law enforcement. If state-department's claims are true, did noblogs.org do so?

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