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Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

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Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

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Post by taude »

One of the biggest reason I've stopped using Emacs, and I was a pretty heavy user before was that org-mode files weren't fully native Markdown files, which caused annoying friction when collaborating with others.

It would be interesting for me to have a new markdown-centric org-mode thing. I'd love to vibe lisp to customize my workflows, and I don't totally love Obsidian, which is what I've setup and configured now. I'd prefer to just have the config living in/around init.el/config.el (I used DoomEmacs most recently).

I realize that org/agenda, etc does a ton more than markdown offers, but most of my flow is just around: raw notes to be consumed, check lists, due dates on items, and other "basics" of org-mode.

Any recent Emacsers have similar workflows that are tgenible these days? I'd love to get Emacs back in use in my new antigenic Tmux-centric coding flows, and have it be a first class markdown editor, organizaer, and potentially collaboration.....

Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

#12

Post by kodoman »

taude wrote: post #11

One of the biggest reason I've stopped using Emacs, and I was a pretty heavy user before was that org-mode files weren't fully native Markdown files, which caused annoying friction when collaborating with others. It would be interesting for me to have a new markdown-centric org-mode thing. I'd love to vibe lisp to customize my workflows, and I don't totally love Obsidian, which is what I've setup and configured now.…

What is wrong with markdown mode? Is it that you would rather do the org agenda or calendar via md rather then org? I do understand that if that is the case.

Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

#13

Post by taude »

kodoman wrote: post #12
taude wrote: post #11

One of the biggest reason I've stopped using Emacs, and I was a pretty heavy user before was that org-mode files weren't fully native Markdown files, which caused annoying friction when collaborating with others. It would be interesting for me to have a new markdown-centric org-mode thing. I'd love to vibe lisp to customize my workflows, and I don't totally love Obsidian, which is what I've setup and configured now.…

What is wrong with markdown mode? Is it that you would rather do the org agenda or calendar via md rather then org? I do understand that if that is the case.

Yeup, I would love to have some of the org/agenda operations/views on a regular markdown file. Especially so I could just copy it raw out, and paste into other markdown-centric tools, github md files, etc. for colaborating with others.

Since markdown is becoming so prevalent. Even our product managers are becoming natively conversant with it, I'd just prefer to have as markdown first world.

(don't get me started ranting about how Atlassian and Slack have migrated away from markdown and to proprietary formats....).

Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

#14

Post by edgyquant »

kreyenborgi wrote: post #5
edgyquant wrote: post #4

What are people’s workflows for using eMacs with generative coding? I’m trying to get a workflow where I can generate code and approve it like a PR (maybe leave comments for a next round of generation) but I’m new to eMacs and the ai coding package isn’t working with the latest eMacs

Which AI coding package? Agent-shell? Gptel-agent?

It’s just called ai-code I’m new to eMacs so this popped up but had a bunch of issues I was trying to debug https://github.com/tninja/ai-code-interface.el

Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

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Post by RahulMJ »

A bit of extra info:

- `ts` stands for "tree-sitter", meaning this mode uses tree-sitter under the hood, which is, among other things, very performant.

- There's support for the CommonMark spec and GFM, so things like `- [ ]` checkboxes and ~~strikethrough~~ work out of the box, along with many other small QoL features.

- This mode is BUILT-IN, so no extra packages are needed.

- This is currently in the experimental phase, so users need to "opt in" and load the mode to play with it, hence the first part of the guide.

Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

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Post by RahulMJ »

pjdesno wrote: post #3

For those of us who have just been using Emacs, rather than following its recent evolution, "ts-mode" refers to a mode which uses tree-sitter for parsing, highlighting etc.

Thanks for adding this. I just made a comment expanding a bit of what users may find in the new mode.

Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

#17

Post by sebastianavina »

edgyquant wrote: post #4

What are people’s workflows for using eMacs with generative coding? I’m trying to get a workflow where I can generate code and approve it like a PR (maybe leave comments for a next round of generation) but I’m new to eMacs and the ai coding package isn’t working with the latest eMacs

I use windows 11, wsl2, WezTerm.

emacs -nw directly on the shell.

its like working on a linux computer, but from windows.

I run vterm inside emacs, and claude code inside vterm. I have special commands for extracting file routes, and flow between dired and magit. Everything runs like magic.

I also have copilot-chat and copilot-mode installed. From time to time I use it to review what claude has done, or to chat a little bit.

Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

#18

Post by mfld »

taude wrote: post #11

One of the biggest reason I've stopped using Emacs, and I was a pretty heavy user before was that org-mode files weren't fully native Markdown files, which caused annoying friction when collaborating with others. It would be interesting for me to have a new markdown-centric org-mode thing. I'd love to vibe lisp to customize my workflows, and I don't totally love Obsidian, which is what I've setup and configured now.…

Not tested this myself, but there are ways to improve markdown/org-mode interop, like in https://youtu.be/RJqRwlVvB3E

Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

#19

Post by aag »

wilkystyle wrote: post #7
remedan wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agent Shell connected via ACP to local Claude Code. https://github.com/xenodium/agent-shell

Can't say enough good things about agent-shell.el! Xenodium has done amazing work there.

I'm a huge fan of agent-shell, too. It keeps getting better and better, and it's infinitely customizable, like any good Emacs package.

Re: Emacs 31: An unofficial guide to Markdown-ts-mode

#20

Post by kodoman »

taude wrote: post #13
kodoman wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is wrong with markdown mode? Is it that you would rather do the org agenda or calendar via md rather then org? I do understand that if that is the case.

Yeup, I would love to have some of the org/agenda operations/views on a regular markdown file. Especially so I could just copy it raw out, and paste into other markdown-centric tools, github md files, etc. for colaborating with others. Since markdown is becoming so prevalent. Even our product managers are becoming natively conversant with it, I'd just prefer to have as markdown first world. (don't get me started rant…

Yes must say I have found myself moving away from org and looking at it as an annoyance wrapping up many excellent features that could be wrapped up in simple elisp function and structures that could then just be encoded in what every way one likes, it seems to me that for example todo lists are actually better as nested lisp lists, And then you can simply render as what ever you like. Of course one might like to serialize back as well but I have often wondered about it.

I definitely think markdown has won (at org was never going to 'win' of course given it's limited scope) and actually is probably what we should just all be using and accept.

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