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Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Re: Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Post by pwillia7 »

sph wrote: post #20
perarneng wrote: post #17

Have generative AI create the music and then become a cover artist for AI generated music. No one will notice. Lots of musicians are cover artists because perhaps they are skilled in their playing instruments and or singing but have a hard time coming up with good music. So instead let AI come up with the music and just copy it and make it yours.

Do you think people that use machines to generate music have the technical skills to be a cover artist? (I suppose you mean with real instruments) The only people salivating at generative AI are those that do not have the skills to create without.

yikes ... assuming you hate MIDI too

Re: Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Post by card_zero »

fwlr wrote: post #19
D-Machine wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, I don't disagree at all!

Hah, my apologies - I jump at any chance I get to explain why nebulous, unenforceable, or even impossible laws can nevertheless have concrete and worthwhile benefits, it’s a favorite pet topic for me.

Fun. Now do "why voting for an unelectable minor party can still change the world", I like that one.

Re: Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Post by rbwkap »

glimshe wrote: post #27
Gecko4072 wrote: post #21

Comment on the video page of the song that sparked this: “ No lol. We don’t need more over privileged musicians leading luxurious lives while the rest of us slave away. I’d rather support this if leads to less inequality. No more Rihanna’s and Guy Sebastian etc”

This is actually an insightful comment. People defending strong copyrights think they are protecting the little guy, but in fact they are defending the few winner-takes-all creatives. Banning AI music may only protect the very same people. Perhaps AI music will mostly hurt mass-market, ad-fueled artists while leaving the little guy who toils away in live bar and night club shows untouched. It could paradoxically incr…

Complete bullshit. Any musician can register for copyright payouts and all musicians involved in a production get something.

Instead, of course the money should go to Silicon Valley mafiosi and middlemen!

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Post by bcjdjsndon »

copemaxxxing wrote: post #22

AI generated music, AI generated blogs etc, is really a stupid idea. Maybe some people want it, but I really don't. I really don't care if the music is great (it's not, I'm a musician). I really don't care if the writing is great or the content is great. Its like being kosher. Some people choose to not eat non kosher food. I choose not to consume AI generated materials. What if AI cures cancer? Sure, let it cure canc…

But why do I have be prohibited from it just because you have an unintelligible feeling it's bad somehow?

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Post by Philpax »

sph wrote: post #20
perarneng wrote: post #17

Have generative AI create the music and then become a cover artist for AI generated music. No one will notice. Lots of musicians are cover artists because perhaps they are skilled in their playing instruments and or singing but have a hard time coming up with good music. So instead let AI come up with the music and just copy it and make it yours.

Do you think people that use machines to generate music have the technical skills to be a cover artist? (I suppose you mean with real instruments) The only people salivating at generative AI are those that do not have the skills to create without.

Performance is not the same as original creation, so yes, I think that's very possible.

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Post by hallgrim »

nl wrote: post #15

This is in response to a possibly (?) AI generated cover of "Like a Prayer" topping Australian radio play charts in July and ARIA deciding it was illegitimate. >But the track, released by Queensland-based DJ and producer Josh Fawaz, has angered some in the music industry who believe it was produced with artificial intelligence-powered audio engineering software. > ABC News has contacted Fawaz multiple times this week…

They should add labels for auto-tune as well, so I can filter it out more easily

Re: Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Post by bcjdjsndon »

copemaxxxing wrote: post #26
Gecko4072 wrote: post #21

Comment on the video page of the song that sparked this: “ No lol. We don’t need more over privileged musicians leading luxurious lives while the rest of us slave away. I’d rather support this if leads to less inequality. No more Rihanna’s and Guy Sebastian etc”

1. Its the people who worship Rihanna and Guy Sebastian is the problem. If you don't like those people, don't need to buy their stuffs. I am a musician but I, never in my life, have any idols whatsoever. I don't buy their stuffs. I create my own. One wonder how can the entertainment industry survives anyway if everyone is like me. But thankfully not everyone is like me, the world goes around. 2. You can support local…

> I am a musician but I, never in my life, have any idols whatsoever.

Let's hear this music then.... What's the guessing it's not very good.

Re: Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Post by tass »

copemaxxxing wrote: post #26
Gecko4072 wrote: post #21

Comment on the video page of the song that sparked this: “ No lol. We don’t need more over privileged musicians leading luxurious lives while the rest of us slave away. I’d rather support this if leads to less inequality. No more Rihanna’s and Guy Sebastian etc”

1. Its the people who worship Rihanna and Guy Sebastian is the problem. If you don't like those people, don't need to buy their stuffs. I am a musician but I, never in my life, have any idols whatsoever. I don't buy their stuffs. I create my own. One wonder how can the entertainment industry survives anyway if everyone is like me. But thankfully not everyone is like me, the world goes around. 2. You can support local…

I think many people believe their streaming use will only pay artists who they listen to, not realizing the streaming service actually pays artists based upon overall listener numbers (or possibly pre-negotiated amounts).

So, in the old days you would "support (a) local artist" by buying their album and now people probably think they are supporting them by listening to them on spotify/whatever but they really are not. Your streaming dollars are almost entirely going to Rihanna and every other big artist even if you don't listen to a single song by them.

Re: Australia Bans Generative A.I. From Official Music Charts

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Post by bcjdjsndon »

tharakam wrote: post #7

Is Australia a "banning lab" or something. (Disclaimer: I'm an Australian citizen)

Probably the most aspiringly poncey of all the commonwealth nations, rich given that "cunt" is more popular in Australia than han any other English speaking nation
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