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Post by tuesdaynight »

account42 wrote: post #280
tuesdaynight wrote: post #55

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It's frustrating, but we need to accept that we are not the kind of user that these platforms want. I stopped using Reddit for the same reason, and I accepted that I'm not the best user for them. For my luck, Reddit is not used as the main communication channel for government agencies

We actually don't need to accept that. When they become big enough for network effects to become inescapable they need to be treated as utilities more than random private companies.

Are you saying that they should be regulated or controlled by the government in some ways?

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by pessimizer »

inigyou wrote: post #198
numpad0 wrote: post #145

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I think buying Twitter for data was a blunder big as expecting self driving to be solved by 2015 or whenever it originally was. It is only clear with hindsight, but now everyone knows that tweets are literally detrimental for LLM style AI for whatever reason. Personally I think it's because tweets are responses without CoT or prompts, or could be also because all its meat is in the shape incompatible with en-US cultu…

He didn't buy twitter for data, he bought it to shut down criticism of himself and it worked

He bought twitter because he was forced to. He got it at twice any valuation (based on fake usage stats) and at least 4x what it was worth. Criticism of him was not "shut down" either off or on twitter.

https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/12/elon-musk-admits-he-only-b...

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by dataengineer56 »

ghusto wrote: post #109
kemotep wrote: post #27

I used Twitter for over 10 years without an account then suddenly in 2022 that was completely disrupted and no longer an option. Reddit is now this way too. But I find it ridiculous that Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. get used by government agencies and local businesses to post announcements and these sites are increasingly if not completely unusable without being logged in (and in some cases requiring an app inst…

Here in the Netherlands, WhatsApp has the defacto communication tool. Everyone is expected to have it installed, not just by friends but also municipals and companies. Same level as having an e-mail address. It's a missed opportunity for the digital soverignty the EU says it so badly needs. The code for a government backed WhatsApp competitor is there, in multiple instances even. Launch a WhatsApp clone and put all g…

> It's a missed opportunity for the digital soverignty the EU says it so badly needs. The code for a government backed WhatsApp competitor is there, in multiple instances even. Launch a WhatsApp clone and put all governement communication through it so everyone has to have it installed, and you have an instant EU-wide userbase. From there, people will naturally start to use it between themselves.

I think you have completely misjudged how much the majority of people would not want to use an EU-controlled chat app.

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Post by gonzalohm »

inigyou wrote: post #185
ghusto wrote: post #109

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Here in the Netherlands, WhatsApp has the defacto communication tool. Everyone is expected to have it installed, not just by friends but also municipals and companies. Same level as having an e-mail address. It's a missed opportunity for the digital soverignty the EU says it so badly needs. The code for a government backed WhatsApp competitor is there, in multiple instances even. Launch a WhatsApp clone and put all g…

There is a carrier neutral WhatsApp, called SMS.

Not neutral if you are Apple. That's their battlefield

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Post by jm4 »

cpt_sobel wrote: post #246
jm4 wrote: post #74

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The Reddit thing is disappointing. I stopped being a user a long time ago, but their links often show up in search results. I started noticing I couldn't see the page without logging in. I ended up blocking Reddit in my search results. It's not worth it.

At least for now Reddit doesn't require neither phone number nor email address (I think)

I just don't want to be logged in. I used to be an active user. It sucks up too much time and there's a lot of toxicity. I finally got off when they blocked third party apps. Their official app is horrible and the website has enough annoyances that I don't want to use it. I was content to click on the occasional search result though. Now that they finally took that away I'm done.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by angoragoats »

account42 wrote: post #292
angoragoats wrote: post #65

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I learned from experience at least a decade ago that you should not take anything he says seriously or as an assertion of fact. Countless examples[0] prove that this is the case. [0] https://elonmusk.today

This should be your prior for any public figure.

Agreed for sure. I think part of the problem is that at least for a while, he was good at selling the lie that he was an intelligent engineer, which caused a lot of people (especially tech-savvy ones) to trust him more than the average random public figure. Unfortunately it seems like some people never realized he was a fraud and still view him this way.
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