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U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by ydat »

ajmurmann wrote: post #42
Dig1t wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is classic goomba fallacy. Right wing oligarchs want infinite immigration because they get a larger labor pool and lower wages. Right wing normies want less immigration because they don't want to compete with the entire world for a job and don't want to become a minority in their own country. Spend some time on X and you can see the two parts of the right wing attack each other over this issue.

Jobs will just move abroad then: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2025-11-11/trump-s-h...

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Post by rmujica »

leftouterjoins wrote: post #710
hvb2 wrote: post #15

So for those that don't know, it's quite common for a visa renewal to be required to leave the country. Depending on the visa, you might have to do this every year. So just imagine, having a normal job in the US and you're asked to leave to renew your visa and this stuff happens. That's no more appointment, not even a new date and you're now very likely unable to work and possibly can't even enter the country to get…

Imagine trying to find a job in your home country but you can’t because masses are being brought over to undercut you and your fellow countrymen. Inhumane.

skill issue

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Post by aveao »

prepend wrote: post #20
hvb2 wrote: post #15

So for those that don't know, it's quite common for a visa renewal to be required to leave the country. Depending on the visa, you might have to do this every year. So just imagine, having a normal job in the US and you're asked to leave to renew your visa and this stuff happens. That's no more appointment, not even a new date and you're now very likely unable to work and possibly can't even enter the country to get…

I have friends who are expats and they’ve done this for years. I had one family member who left every six months to renew their visa. It’s a chore, but very common around the world.

Common around the world? I'd be curious what other countries require this, pretty much everywhere else I know has you renew your status within the country (incl. US), and they give you some form of proof of residence that takes the place of a visa (excl. US).

In many cases I've seen this is either a sticker on your passport (incl. possibly a visa) or a physical card, and does not require traveling abroad for it for "consular processing". This is the case for Schengen countries, Canada, UK, Australia, Japan, Thailand, etc.

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Post by softwaredoug »

This is the upshot

> Melissa Chavin, a London-based U.S. immigration lawyer, said she expects the pause to be temporary. “I don’t think that they’ll leave this indefinitely, especially for wealthier developed countries,” she said. Applicants from developing countries might find it harder to progress their applications under the new guidance, she added.

This comes after one judge ruled the 75 country travel ban was illegal[1]

My sense is they’re trying to get some of that travel ban back through other means

1 - https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/distric...

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Post by orsenthil »

cingley wrote: post #687

That doesn't sound too bad, it just means that workers who would otherwise have migrated to the US can enrich their home countries, or other countries they are more easily able to migrate too. From an economic point of view this may well end up being a positive policy decision for both sides.

> positive policy decision for both sides.

Actually not. Harmful for US. US gains for more from the skilled immigrants (at their cost).

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Post by MostlyStable »

leftouterjoins wrote: post #710
hvb2 wrote: post #15

So for those that don't know, it's quite common for a visa renewal to be required to leave the country. Depending on the visa, you might have to do this every year. So just imagine, having a normal job in the US and you're asked to leave to renew your visa and this stuff happens. That's no more appointment, not even a new date and you're now very likely unable to work and possibly can't even enter the country to get…

Imagine trying to find a job in your home country but you can’t because masses are being brought over to undercut you and your fellow countrymen. Inhumane.

Lump of Labor fallacy

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Post by aveao »

goodluckchuck wrote: post #51
yibg wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were they able to come back when they did this?

I think the whole point of making someone leave is the possibility that they may not be allowed back in. If staying was a foregone conclusion then there’d be no point in leaving.

Isn't there's a special case with Canada where you can return within x days even if your visa has expired, if your status is valid? Many go there for "consular processing" for that reason if I recall correctly.

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Post by y-curious »

rmujica wrote: post #712
leftouterjoins wrote: post #710

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine trying to find a job in your home country but you can’t because masses are being brought over to undercut you and your fellow countrymen. Inhumane.

skill issue

Importing people that will work for much less (and many times, much worse) is not a skill issue. Keep laughing til you are undercut fully

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Post by y-curious »

aveao wrote: post #713
prepend wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have friends who are expats and they’ve done this for years. I had one family member who left every six months to renew their visa. It’s a chore, but very common around the world.

Common around the world? I'd be curious what other countries require this, pretty much everywhere else I know has you renew your status within the country (incl. US), and they give you some form of proof of residence that takes the place of a visa (excl. US). In many cases I've seen this is either a sticker on your passport (incl. possibly a visa) or a physical card, and does not require traveling abroad for it for "…

Thailand explicitly requires you to leave the country. There are companies that specialize in bussing expats to nearby countries.

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Post by shevy-java »

hvb2 wrote: post #15

So for those that don't know, it's quite common for a visa renewal to be required to leave the country. Depending on the visa, you might have to do this every year. So just imagine, having a normal job in the US and you're asked to leave to renew your visa and this stuff happens. That's no more appointment, not even a new date and you're now very likely unable to work and possibly can't even enter the country to get…

People who voted Trump, though, kind of want that tough-man stance. The problem is that the USA is really messed up. They only get binaries, aka "more/fewer immigrants". That's not really democracy - that's a dictatorship based on populism, run by a billionaire who keeps on feeding his dynasty clan, yet suspiciously avoids explaining his association with Epstein or why he attacks foreign countries (such as Iran) without having a plan in place. He is really by far the dumbest US president of all times - and I said that about George Bush jr. too, but that guy is still smarter than Trump is.
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