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Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by inexcf »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #81
axegon_ wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fine by me. My example illustrates their incompetence if they are willing to let a user with an OS that hasn't received any updates in half a decade, then clearly, they don't give a single crap about security.

Noo, it’s the other way around lmao. A financial security audit is one of the most thorough security audits you can ask for in software. GrapheneOS gets blocked because it doesn’t follow the secure system requirements (root).

What requirements does it not follow?

>(root)

GrapheneOS is not rooted.

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by c7b »

netsharc wrote: post #40
iammrpayments wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thought they use Sepa

SEPA uses your IBAN (account number), and one can also enter this account number for payment, implicitly allowing the store to withdraw money from it...

You must be referring to SEPA Direct Debit, which would be very risky to use to siphon funds. There's an 8 week no-questions-asked refund policy, 13 months for unauthorized transactions, if the payment fails (eg due to insufficient balance), the payee is charged a non-refundable cancelation fee. [0] And that's all separate from any legal troubles for fraudulent charges. I don't know why Germans use PayPal over SEPA, but I'd be surprised if SEPA Direct Debit was the reason.

[0] https://www.europeanpaymentscouncil.eu/what-we-do/sepa-direc...

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by pirates »

WCSTombs wrote: post #39
kissiel wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think if paypal not working on GOS makes you not use it, then GOS is definitely not for you...

They're saying the opposite, no?

They didn’t read it that closely, they just wanted to put someone down and move along.

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by axegon_ »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #81
axegon_ wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fine by me. My example illustrates their incompetence if they are willing to let a user with an OS that hasn't received any updates in half a decade, then clearly, they don't give a single crap about security.

Noo, it’s the other way around lmao. A financial security audit is one of the most thorough security audits you can ask for in software. GrapheneOS gets blocked because it doesn’t follow the secure system requirements (root).

I suggest you read up the graphene documentation.

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by dylan604 »

tonyhart7 wrote: post #52
axegon_ wrote: post #17

This is arguably the most irritating thing with just about every largecorp developer: "os that hasn't been updated in 6 years? Sure boss!". Os that is built specifically around security and privacy with daily updates: "No, you can't do that". Annoying - yes. Safe way to make sure I will stop being your customer - also YES!

"Safe way to make sure I will stop being your customer - also YES!" I don't think they care at all about the size of graphene os market share if its jeopardize entire userbase then its not worth it

I'm sure their automatic bans have happened to more people than the number of grapheneOS users

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by dylan604 »

fg137 wrote: post #76
DemetriousJones wrote: post #38

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I simply use it as an intermediary between my bank and any website I don't fully trust

I use "virtual card" for those needs. For me, it doesn't justify bringing out PayPal

I've had to use it when my bank's purchase limits did not allow for card (virtual or real), but the same purchase was allowed when going through PayPal. It was annoying AF, but was much faster than contacting my bank and getting permission to spend my money.
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