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Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by mr_toad »

dannyw wrote: post #133
GeertB wrote: post #108

Nvidia's been pretty terrible for open source / free software. No need to quote Linus Torvalds here. They want to control what runs on their hardware. They want to you write code against their proprietary drivers and APIs, not directly against the hardware (which these days of course also contains plenty of software, but still). Don't expect things to go differently this time around. Nvidia wants control over the sof…

NVIDIA is one of the most open labs. They even share many of their pre-training and even post-training datasets for Nemotron on HuggingFace; for example: https://huggingface.co/datasets/nvidia/Nemotron-Post-Trainin... Which other lab shares this? Yes, there is no question NVIDIA wants to lock you into CUDA and their hardware. But also, they’ve consistently demonstrated the most openness when it comes to model trainin…

> NVIDIA is one of the most open labs.

Sure, the models are open weight, but porting the code needed to run them on non-Nvidia hardware is not trivial.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by cyanydeez »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #535
WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You missed the whole game-ification, enshitification, copilot-ification of github, and open source theft for their AI training episodes Always like that with Microsoft apologists

Github hasn't changed that much overall. The copilot service and the training on open source would be the same if Microsoft hadn't bought GitHub, it would just be branded differently.

Have you seen github outages?

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by Tenoke »

randusername wrote: post #601

Grim prediction: "Quantized models are no longer permitted on the Hugging Face platform. Reduced precision models are a safety hazard and a violation of our TOS. Click here to speak with a sales representative about our many exciting cloud hosting offerings or enterprise GPU packages."

Too base cynicism. I'd be willing to bet you my $200 to your $100 that doesn't happen.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by setopt »

z2 wrote: post #602
mrshu wrote: post #436

I guess this unfortunately means HuggingFace won't be "the first company to go public with an emoji instead of the three-letter ticker" as the cofounders originally intended: "When we started the company, a running joke with my co-founders was that we wanted to be the first company to go public with an emoji instead of the three-letter ticker when you go in the NASDAQ." -- Clem Delangue (https://unsupervisedlearning.…

Everyone's got a noble goal until they get a buyout offer promising to make them a billionaire Edit: Just discovered via this post that hn posts, like the exchanges, filter out emoji

Well, yeah. I also wouldn’t like to explain to my family why my emoji is more important than being set for life.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by tclancy »

Tenoke wrote: post #623
randusername wrote: post #601

Grim prediction: "Quantized models are no longer permitted on the Hugging Face platform. Reduced precision models are a safety hazard and a violation of our TOS. Click here to speak with a sales representative about our many exciting cloud hosting offerings or enterprise GPU packages."

Too base cynicism. I'd be willing to bet you my $200 to your $100 that doesn't happen.

Natural log cynicism and any cynicism about public corporations in our late-stage capitalism world is likely to look tame a year later. Or possibly too.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by alexpotato »

HolyLampshade wrote: post #533
mrshu wrote: post #436

I guess this unfortunately means HuggingFace won't be "the first company to go public with an emoji instead of the three-letter ticker" as the cofounders originally intended: "When we started the company, a running joke with my co-founders was that we wanted to be the first company to go public with an emoji instead of the three-letter ticker when you go in the NASDAQ." -- Clem Delangue (https://unsupervisedlearning.…

Little bit of a “the more you know” moment. Historically NYSE (and AMEX; thought of in this specific context as CTA) had a lock on 1-3 character symbols. NASDAQ (via UTP) had a lock on 4-6 character symbols. For a long time you could tell where something was listed purely by looking at the length of the symbol it traded under. This all changed in the late 2000s or so, so no longer useful information. I honestly would…

NASDAQ at one point wanted to have "special characters" e.g. *()/ etc in ticker names too.

EVERYONE said it was a bad idea but they kept pushing it. Repeatedly.

Eventually, smarter heads prevailed and they got rid of the idea.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by rbwkap »

cyberrock wrote: post #203
GeertB wrote: post #108

Nvidia's been pretty terrible for open source / free software. No need to quote Linus Torvalds here. They want to control what runs on their hardware. They want to you write code against their proprietary drivers and APIs, not directly against the hardware (which these days of course also contains plenty of software, but still). Don't expect things to go differently this time around. Nvidia wants control over the sof…

>No need to quote Linus Torvalds here Evidently we should, because Linus has been more positive about Nvidia in the last 2 years [0]. I've been using the open driver for years now, for both gaming and CUDA. [0] https://binarymusings.org/posts/talks/linus-on-ai-linux-in-k...

He has been positive about corporations and mainstream propaganda since his CoC "retreat". He is no rebel anymore.

Now Nvidia is also premium sponsor of the Linux Foundation.

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