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Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by encom »

fluidcruft wrote: post #47
axegon_ wrote: post #17

This is arguably the most irritating thing with just about every largecorp developer: "os that hasn't been updated in 6 years? Sure boss!". Os that is built specifically around security and privacy with daily updates: "No, you can't do that". Annoying - yes. Safe way to make sure I will stop being your customer - also YES!

Generally I think the issue is that there's a tension between your security vs Paypal's security (deliberate, motivated bad actors). Maybe an analogy could be about using metal detectors as a layer to reduce bank robberies. A gun in a good guy's hands is a good thing to prevent robberies. Guns in a bad guy's hands are a bad thing to prevent robberies. Paypal knows you have a gun but they don't know if you're a good g…

How does a rooted phone enable bank fraud? This smells like pointless policy checkboxing.

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by tonyhart7 »

axegon_ wrote: post #17

This is arguably the most irritating thing with just about every largecorp developer: "os that hasn't been updated in 6 years? Sure boss!". Os that is built specifically around security and privacy with daily updates: "No, you can't do that". Annoying - yes. Safe way to make sure I will stop being your customer - also YES!

"Safe way to make sure I will stop being your customer - also YES!"

I don't think they care at all about the size of graphene os market share

if its jeopardize entire userbase then its not worth it

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by StrLght »

Still works for me.

I had to update exploit protection after their latest update — I think it was enabling dynamic code loading via both memory and storage that did the trick.

Edit: checked now, I have also disabled secure app spawning.

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by bossyTeacher »

onion2k wrote: post #31

Has PayPal blocked GrapheneOS, or have they blocked every OS they're unable to verify and done a poor job of implementing their checks? Hanlon's Razor is a useful tool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

They have blocked rooted phones based on the error provided. Nothing to do with verification. They treat rooted phones to a level they don't with phones without critical security updates. That's the tension. Non-rooted phones aren't necessarily unsafer.

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by 4chandaily »

onion2k wrote: post #31

Has PayPal blocked GrapheneOS, or have they blocked every OS they're unable to verify and done a poor job of implementing their checks? Hanlon's Razor is a useful tool. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

It is a useful tool, but is largely irrelevant to this issue. To the end user, this isn't really much of a difference. Whether the cause is malice or simply not choosing to use the smallest effective brush, they are still taking an action that is preventing legitimate users from accessing the service.

Re: Tell HN: PayPal blocks GrapheneOS

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Post by hashworks »

dennemark wrote: post #45

Looking at the description, the title should be changed to "Contactless PayPal card does not run on GrapheneOS" I use latest Aurora Store PayPal version and it still works. I just dont use contactless payment.

I'm not using the contactless payment feature and get the same crash and error.
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