Starbase, LA

Post by inemesitaffia » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 11:30 AM UTC

throwawayqqq11 wrote: post #455

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This is incredibly overstated. There are "incentives" for all sorts of activities. These incentives were available to all manufacturers. We should have "incentives" to produce electric vehicles and manufacturing in America. Insane not to. And these incentives are often "you would normally have to pay us X million in taxes, but we'll let you pay less". When the alternative is something not being built and no tax reven…

> In 2019, the loss was $862 million, but for 2020 there is a huge profit of $721 million. > However: A closer look at the figures published last week shows that Tesla is still making losses with actual sales of electric cars - around $500,000 in 2020. > In 2020, carbon certificates brought in $1.6 billion, without this revenue the numbers would still be below red. https://www.electrichunter.com/ev-news/tesla-makes-m…

Post by inemesitaffia » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 11:32 AM UTC

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So you're technically correct, but IIUC Tesla is still the most delivered (customers taking delivery) EV brand in China. Draw what conclusions you will from that fun fact

Isn't that wholesale which does not always land to customer sales? Honestly I don't know much about all of this.

Post by inemesitaffia » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 11:45 AM UTC

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As both you and I said, Elon talks big and has failed to deliver on a ton of things That does not mean he has achieved nothing incredible. If John Carmack or Tim Cook or Henry Ford said they were going to make cheap, reliable fusion reactors in every home but never did, they would still be the legends they are for the things they did do successfully. The things they didn’t do don’t change what they did. The two are u…

Why are you listing other people that you imagine you wouldn’t mind if they were habitual liars

Post by inemesitaffia » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 12:23 PM UTC

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> SpaceX is the most successful Musk company because it is the one he has the LEAST direct involvement with. > Gwynne Shotwell is the actual reason SpaceX is as successful as it it. Weird take. If you read any of the biographies or books about SpaceX, you would know that many key personnel at SpaceX (e.g. Tom Mueller [1], Hans Koeniggsman[2], Tim Buzza [3], Jim Cantrell[4], Garrett Reisman [5]) have all mentioned his…

We are talking about the same moron who made the Cybertruck fiasco. I can only imagine how many people told Musk how bad of an idea it was to make a body out of hard stainless steel, and how he probably fired them all. and he shut down one of Twitters data centers after being told not to by the engineers who built Twitter. This directly caused many outages because the IP addresses of that data center were hard coded…

Post by inemesitaffia » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 12:30 PM UTC

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Which situation did Elon Musk put us in to? Can you elaborate? When did this situation start? What happened? What did he personally do that put us in the situation?

One such example - he's using his massive wealth and influence to support fascist political movements that promise mass deportation and "remigration", and even supporting these policies explicitly himself. In the US, his political beneficiaries have managed to "achieve" net negative migration to the US for the first time in 50 years, and the first decline in overall population in US history . If this becomes the new…