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Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by aenis »

happosai wrote: post #36
JLO64 wrote: post #5

> Thanks to the combined efforts of mildsunrise and chaos_princess, we discovered that ACE3 has pretty much the same register set as CD3217, only wrapped in a SPMI interface instead of addressed over I2C. Both the SPMI interface and ACE3 itself are now working in Asahi Linux, bringing USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt support to all M3 series devices. When I got my M3 Pro MBP, I got it with the intention of eventually installi…

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Hm? Should we ban volunteers? Doing unpaid work is sort of their thing.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by firatsarlar »

Someone out there can go and build a cancer vaccine for their dog, and I can't even find a door into projects like this — that's on me. Forget a PR, even making a comment feels devastating - human communication -. I have everything it takes to help this project, and I can do nothing. Lovely.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by simonh »

happosai wrote: post #36
JLO64 wrote: post #5

> Thanks to the combined efforts of mildsunrise and chaos_princess, we discovered that ACE3 has pretty much the same register set as CD3217, only wrapped in a SPMI interface instead of addressed over I2C. Both the SPMI interface and ACE3 itself are now working in Asahi Linux, bringing USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt support to all M3 series devices. When I got my M3 Pro MBP, I got it with the intention of eventually installi…

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That's kind of how open source development works, right? We buy hardware and we use software people wrote for free. What am I missing?

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by worldsavior »

realusername wrote: post #100
worldsavior wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple probably uses API with ZDR. I'm talking about leaks.

That's not going to save them, the model could leak GPL licensed code on output as well, and it's an order of magnitude more likely than leaking internal documents. These large tech companies can't have their cake and eat it too.

It's not new Anthropic/OpenAI/whatever trained on copyrighted code and leaks (anna's archive). Companies just don't give a shit because you can't prove it.

In Asahi Linux specifically, there was not long ago a PR for M3 or similar for removing a big roadblock that existed (and I think still exists). Turns out this whole PR was implemented by an LLM (using copyrighted materials, probably most of it is Apple's) and it was immediately closed. Yes, it's a problem and illegal.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by simonh »

danw1979 wrote: post #103
Gud wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. I’ve been a big Lenovo fan, settled on the X1 carbon. I’ve had three of them, G5, G6 and G9. The USB-C port broke on both G6 and G9 models. Apparently it’s a common problem. Unfortunately the ports are soldered directly on the motherboard making it difficult to fix(should be a small separate board for easy replacement). I was going to desolder and replace the ports, but haven’t gotten around to it. I’m now u…

Ummm if repairability is a concern, I’ve got some news to share about your new Macbook.

If the ports don't effing break in the first place, who cares?

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by ksec »

znpy wrote: post #83
ksec wrote: post #41

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AFAWK, M6 CPU is a die shrink of M5, so unless something M7 present that will significantly improve CPU performance. The ARM C1 CPU core that is available to everyone has pretty much matched up to Apple. And that is all things included from performance, power, die size etc.

And?

You said > "Considering how much better m-series CPUs are, "

And I give some thoughts into may be they are not "much better". And in that case may be sticking to spec and not Thinking Different on certain things matters more.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by OroPla »

simonh wrote: post #123
happosai wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That's kind of how open source development works, right? We buy hardware and we use software people wrote for free. What am I missing?

My steelman read of that would be that there is a difference between paying Apple a premium to make installing Linux hard vs. paying, say, Framework a premium to make installing Linux easy.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by not_a9 »

superdisk wrote: post #48
laidoffamazon wrote: post #32

Is Asahi an LLM-hostile project? I'd imagine this is something that would be benefitted tremendously with a Fable class model

> It is the opinion of the Board that Large Language Models (LLMs), herein referred to as Slop Generators, are unsuitable for use as software engineering tools, particularly in the Free and Open Source Software movement. https://asahilinux.org/docs/project/policies/slop/

I wonder how they handle merging upstream clanked stuff.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by djxfade »

lvl155 wrote: post #111

It’s a shame that Macs have leading processors and hardwares but Apple can’t make Linux first-class. I know they have full builds internally so it’s not a matter of resources. It’s simply a business decision for Apple. And quite a dumb one at that. Here’s hoping that Ternus reverses that shortsighted decision.

Realistically, what would the business case for Apple be where it would make sense to make Linux a first-class citizen on their hardware? Their product is a combination of hardware and software that works together to form the final product.

Re: Asahi Linux Progress Report: Linux 7.2

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Post by realusername »

worldsavior wrote: post #124
realusername wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not going to save them, the model could leak GPL licensed code on output as well, and it's an order of magnitude more likely than leaking internal documents. These large tech companies can't have their cake and eat it too.

It's not new Anthropic/OpenAI/whatever trained on copyrighted code and leaks (anna's archive). Companies just don't give a shit because you can't prove it. In Asahi Linux specifically, there was not long ago a PR for M3 or similar for removing a big roadblock that existed (and I think still exists). Turns out this whole PR was implemented by an LLM (using copyrighted materials, probably most of it is Apple's) and it…

If you can't prove it, you can't prove it both ways.

Either everybody gets to use it or nobody does.

Especially that the code getting trained on is for the vast majority copyrighted open source software so if anybody has something to say, it's the opensource community rather than Apple

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