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Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by gspr »

mapontosevenths wrote: post #214
rezonant wrote: post #198

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Did you just quote an LLM as a citation? That's not how citations work.

"That's not how citations work." (Dude on the interwebz, 2026) But more seriously, this is my first time seeing that as well, and I'm not sure I like it. Citing an LLM is a little like citing Wikipedia to me, you cite the primary source the LLM is quoting directly, not the secondary source.

So much of present day feels like being back in middle school around the turn of the millenium, with classmates (and even some teachers!) new to the internet insisting that "source: internet" or "source: google" was totally fine.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by coderenegade »

high_na_euv wrote: post #442
coderenegade wrote: post #283

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It's a clever move if that's what they're doing. They're restricted in China, and are likely to face stiff competition from Chinese chipmakers in the coming years. Acquiring the largest repository of trainable models and ensuring they run better on Nvidia hardware is probably one of the few moves they have for keeping ahead of the competition. I mean, it would be terrible for the consumer, but it does make me think t…

Why would they have to acquire hf in order to optimize their stack for those models? Couldnt they just take those models anyway?

Well now that they own it, they can do whatever they like. They don't necessarily have to be optimizing the models for their hardware, they could just setup preferential pipelines to funnel users to their ecosystem. That seems fairly prudent given the challenges coming their way.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by rvz »

latchkey wrote: post #229
rvz wrote: post #225

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Just say you don't know. Mojo was partially open source before Qualcomm bought them, and they were going to do open source it anyway. Was NVCC or CUDA ever open source since the lifetime of its development?

> they were going to do open source it anyway. uh huh. > Was NVCC or CUDA ever open source since the lifetime of its development? you ever ask Nvidia why ? i did.

> uh huh.

Exactly. You're one of those that don't care.

Mojo's standard library was open sourced a year before the acquisition.

> you ever ask Nvidia why? i did.

The correct answer to my question is "No". CUDA or NVCC was never open sourced during its lifetime.

Since you "claim" to have asked them and know the true reason why is not open source, just say what Nvidia told you verbatim right here.

Intel and AMD have no problem open sourcing their GPU drivers for Linux, but Nvidia has a problem with that.

We can only speculate that "open sourcing" it reveals their GPU trade secrets and their intellectual property for others to copy.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by pizza234 »

amelius wrote: post #415
matheusmoreira wrote: post #191

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> NVIDIA is one of the most open labs. Of course they are. They're commoditizing their complement. I want to own the hardware, not play around in an nvidia fiefdom full of nvidia rules.

> > NVIDIA is one of the most open labs. > Of course they are. They're commoditizing their complement Then why don't they sell consumer GPUs with tons of memory. They clearly segment the market into consumer versus server/business.

There are - see the RTX Pro 6000, which has 96 GB.

There are a few problems though, primarily, a GPU with lots of VRAM and very high bandwidth is inherently very expensive (on top of which there is also the CUDA premium); AI use cases are better served by SoCs with lower (but still high) bandwidth and more RAM.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by Grombobulous »

robocat wrote: post #359
Grombobulous wrote: post #202

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Yes, that's a very good company to be the owner of iRobot, because they are just a robot factory and not a near-monopoly e-commerce retailer. They are essentially on equal footing with other robotic vacuum manufacturers. iRobot didn't go out of business or get absorbed into a larger company lowering competition in the marketplace. It's also not the FTC's job to ensure that companies, especially ones with zero/trivial…

> zero/trivial national security Huh? Robots with vision + sounds sensors and connected to the internet in professional homes across your country are definitely a security issue. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-05/robot-vacuum-deebot-e... One of the leaked images taken by Roomba robot vacuums shows a lady sitting on her toilet - personal.

Does that have military value? I think it's more of a personal security issue.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by polnoner »

teiferer wrote: post #431
jgilias wrote: post #328

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_why_ have people started to call companies “labs”?!

Because it sounds cool/sciency. Just like everything AI is a "model". It's actually not, but it sounds cool/sciency.

Exactly. Adam Neumann figured this out with WeWork Labs.

It sounds cool because people in our age are almost obsessed with scientistic performance.

At least AI labs are actually doing experiments.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by dannyw »

behringer wrote: post #238
bdangubic wrote: post #213

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nothing stopping you from doing that

Can't buy a decent modern Intel gpu to run AI on because of nividias "donation"

The Intel Arc Pro B60 Dual has 48GB of VRAM; and the B70 goes up to 32GB.
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