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U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by philipallstar »

foltik wrote: post #731
CTDOCodebases wrote: post #677

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"Instead, what they all have in common is a vague underlying fear of being displaced, or sense that something owed to them is being taken." This is true for both the citizens and the immigrants.

This comment is itself a perfect example of what I was talking about. Nobody feels entitled to a visa. It’s aspirational, like applying to a job. People do it because they want a better life, knowing full well they could be denied, or that it may well be temporary. But if you believe immigrants could take something from you, like your job or housing, then it makes sense you’d project this idea of entitlement onto the…

> Nobody feels entitled to a visa

Yes they definitely do. People on H1B visas upset that their visa expired and they have to go back to their home country when they'd "built a life in America".

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Post by rvz »

sagarm wrote: post #732
rvz wrote: post #509

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By "they" it is that every single politician lies. So of course that is the tiniest small print of every promise any politician makes, such that once it is a promise broken it is someone else's fault and not theirs. Therefore their entire job is to lie.

This is a lazy take. It doesn't absolve you of being a poorly informed citizen.

My point is to expect politicians to always lie. As soon as they break their promise they usually blame someone or something else.

You as a citizen have a choice to tolerate that or leave the country.

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Post by iLoveOncall »

sinecure wrote: post #97
dzonga wrote: post #19

the current admin are working hard to destroy the U.S as if they're foreign agents. not only are they making it hard & unbearable for families of US citizens & PR holders to be together. while at the same time - discouraging talent to come to the US at a crucial time when talent is at a premium due to A.I development. last the backwards energy policy of banning renewable energy.

This was never about talent. It's about companies hiring foreigners on h1b visas at below market wages where their life in the USA is contingent on their job performance forcing them to work harder and longer than their peers to remain in the country. It's a situation that only benefits companies, while harming US citizens who have to compete with the lower wages of foreigners.

There are minimum salary requirements for H1-B visas which are actually above market rate. Be careful, your racism shows.

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Post by LadyCailin »

itake wrote: post #655
latch wrote: post #625

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Who's angry about how people are spending their already-taxed income? Is that really a thing? Is it sincere or just racism masked as "think of the economy"? (Honest question, Not American. Don't live there, news to me).

The big beautiful bill included a 1% foreign remittance tax for outbound international transfers funded using physical cash, money orders, and cashier's checks.

Which notably, doesn’t affect money transfers in general, just ways that poor people transfer money, so the concern as stated is not in good faith at all, but rather a way to further punish migrant workers, primarily Mexicans, and is absolutely racial animosity.

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Post by inemesitaffia »

larsonian wrote: post #849
account42 wrote: post #793

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I don't now about the UK but having to leave to renew your visa is not unique to the US.

Name one country, then. None that I'm aware of require you to leave the country to renew an immigration visa. Switching from a visitor visa to an immigration visa, sure. But if you're already on an immigration visa or residence permit, it's normally expected that you are, well, an immigrant. That your home, domicile, center of vital interests, whatever you want to call it, is in the country. I know of immigration sys…

Ireland, Nigeria

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Post by bubblethink »

cheonc720 wrote: post #550
testbjjl wrote: post #536

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But will remain anonymous and are okay with the collateral damage. My suspicion is that competition makes you feel insecure. I was born and raised in SF, and I see this not only with immigrants but also from people who feel violated by migrants. There is a spectrum. It’s ugly, short sighted and unhelpful. It’s what it takes to make the valley, but people love pulling up ladders. At least, behind an alias, you’re will…

> But will remain anonymous and are okay with the collateral damage. Have you worked at a tech company in 2026? Plenty of engineers, born in India/China and working in Silicon Valley, are openly anti-immigration. And I also support them since I agree with them. Pull up the ladder once you’ve made it. Nothing new.

This is not X or blind. You created a new account just to post drivel?

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Post by account42 »

thayne wrote: post #798
seebeegeebee wrote: post #626

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Its VERY achievable. I've gone through it personally and it sucks just as much as legally immigrating to ANY other country on Earth. I've legally gone through this process in at least 5 countries and the US was the most expensive, but far from the worst.

> the US was the most expensive In other words, completely inaccessible to many people who would like a better life and are willing to work but lack opportunities in their native country. Just because it was achievable for you doesn't mean it is achievable for everyone.

So? No one is entitled to immigrate to the US. It is very much supposed to not be achievable for literally everyone but only for those where it will be a net positive for the country.

And it's perfectly normal that the country where the most people want to immigrate to will also have higher barriers.

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Post by achenet »

unselect5917 wrote: post #482
driverdan wrote: post #238

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> Better for whom? Minorities and women, for a start.

White people are a global minority at ~7%. "Minorities™" have their own countries where they are majorities. If they don't want to be Minorities™, they can stay home.

With all due respect

1) not all minorities have their own countries. Examples today would include the Tamagzight people in North Africa and the Kurds in Iraq and Turkey. Other examples could include Christians in the Middle East (Lebannon comes to mind, but I think there are other countries as well), Uighurs in China, or even people living in a place like Iran that is a religious theocracy who want more freedom.

2) in particular, for the case of the US, there has been, since the founding of the country, a large population of African-Americans who don't really have a home country anymore, and don't really have much of a choice but to be American, because, having lived there for hundreds of years at this point, that is the only country they know.

3) I do believe that religious tolerance, and tolerance in general, pays off in the long run. Many early American colonies were founded by people seeking greater religious freedom - Pennsylvannia, founded by a Quaker, Plymouth was founded by Pilgrims who rejected the conventional dogma of the Church of England at the time. More recently, the large number of scientists and engineers fleeing the Nazis in Europe during the early-mid 20th century did have a large impact on American industry, in fact I linked Andrew Grove's wikipedia page in another post on this thread as an example.

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