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Re: Nebula Sans

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Post by misstuned »

f4stjack wrote: post #142
WarmWash wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that ad-blocking makes youtube the best value proposition for users. You get almost all the content of nebula, plus tons more, for free, no ads. Don't get me wrong, Nebula is great (although yt actually has a better profit share believe it or not), but the internet needs to look in the mirror before services like it can actually compete with yt.

The problem is, google is an advertising company now the "ad-blocking makes all content free" is a temporary argument at best. At any rate, I like Nebula's curated content better than the ai-slop/clickbait slop Youtube provides. Only pet peeve I have is... jeffiot is in Nebula, Tom Scott is in Nebula, Lindsey Ellis is in Nebula... where is f4mi????????

I have both, and I find my YouTube home page way more diverse than Nebula. Nebula is an invite-only clique and they invite people who look like them. YouTube, for me, has a lot more British creators, a lot more people of colour, a lot more women creators, a bigger diversity of topics and subjects, a lot more deep technical stuff. Nebula is a lot of American guys discussing movies and politics, with only the very recent addition of Token Brit Tom Scott.

I'm yet another person who only got Nebula for week-early access to Jet Lag, and I think if that particular show ever went away or took an extended break, Nebula would be struggling. I find myself watching something on YouTube most evenings, I rarely find myself on Nebula when Jet Lag isn't on.

Re: Nebula Sans

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Post by Marha01 »

jacobolus wrote: post #139
Freedom2 wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps I'm your typical HNer like the GP comment and the topmost comment, but I don't see an issue with changing the style of the font entirely. Sure, it may be jarring to customers, but it's a short term pain for almost zero cost.

There's no inherent issue with it. It just requires doing a bunch of additional design work, which is not free.

Is it more expensive that designing an entirely new font?

Re: Nebula Sans

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Post by RobotToaster »

pbronez wrote: post #88
WarmWash wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that ad-blocking makes youtube the best value proposition for users. You get almost all the content of nebula, plus tons more, for free, no ads. Don't get me wrong, Nebula is great (although yt actually has a better profit share believe it or not), but the internet needs to look in the mirror before services like it can actually compete with yt.

This surprised me, so I looked it up. Basically YouTube pays ~55% and Nebula pays 50%. This is complicated by Nebula's "creator owned" situation. Which is complicated [0]. It's something like: - Nebula's assets live in Watch Nebula LLC - Watch Nebula LLC is owned by 83% Standard Broadcast and 16% Curiosity Stream (CURI) - Standard Broadcast "is owned by 44 total people, all of whom are creators" So it's fair to say t…

> I'm glad YT is still sharing a meaningful amount of money with creators.

They're doing their best to stop sharing anything with all but the largest creators, since they keep increasing the monetisation requirements.

Re: Nebula Sans

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Post by pmkary »

I for one love this website. Reminds me of ~2010ish designs. I miss those days. And who cares how much they spent on the typeface, was their money; I'm glad to have a new beautiful typeface for free.

Re: Nebula Sans

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Post by jacobolus »

Marha01 wrote: post #162
jacobolus wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no inherent issue with it. It just requires doing a bunch of additional design work, which is not free.

Is it more expensive that designing an entirely new font?

That's why they didn't design an entirely new font. Instead they made semi-automated modifications to a free font, and then tweaked a few specific characters afterwards.

The result is not as good as what they had before, and not as good as it would have been if they hired a professional to design a new font from scratch, but it was cheap and solved their problem.

Re: Nebula Sans

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Post by OskarS »

kzrdude wrote: post #120
OskarS wrote: post #21

It's a little beside the point of the post, but I just want to fly a flag for Nebula: I subscribed solely to get early versions of Jet Lag: The Game, but I'm finding myself watching it more and more! It has many of the channels I would go to YouTube for, but I've also discovered several really good ones that I had never heard of. And it has a similar feel to Kagi, in the sense of "freeing" yourself from the algorithm…

I guess Nebula is better for video watching, but without recommendations and video comments, it feels dead. I did pay for it for a year and then gave up. Is the problem me?

I think that's totally fair, it's just different people come to youtube for different things. Nebula is just a different value proposition.

Re: Nebula Sans

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Post by RobotToaster »

Destiner wrote: post #64
bearjaws wrote: post #46

Swear whenever your company decides to invent its own font its like a version of "The Headquarters Curse". You had nothing else better to spend your teams time on so might as well make a new font that 10% of your customers will notice if you are lucky. They could have just picked any other font and used it. It's a video streaming website, how much text content is there vs video content? Headquarter Curse: A theory su…

oh no, an indie company is having fun instead of increasing the shareholder’s value!

A generic corporate sans-serif typeface is your idea of fun?

Re: Nebula Sans

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Post by robocat »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #72
bearjaws wrote: post #46

Swear whenever your company decides to invent its own font its like a version of "The Headquarters Curse". You had nothing else better to spend your teams time on so might as well make a new font that 10% of your customers will notice if you are lucky. They could have just picked any other font and used it. It's a video streaming website, how much text content is there vs video content? Headquarter Curse: A theory su…

So, funnily enough in my own career I've experienced The Headquarters event several times, and each time, after the lavish new headquarters is built, I think to myself, "this is it, we've peaked!" and each time it was an inflection point followed by even more growth and success. I think I'm at 5 now. Also three of those companies designed their own font too, though none of them still use it.

Somebody at Jane Street is ingesting data about new $X (HQs and fonts as two examples) and predicting share prices from that.

Re: Nebula Sans

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Post by wvh »

OskarS wrote: post #21

It's a little beside the point of the post, but I just want to fly a flag for Nebula: I subscribed solely to get early versions of Jet Lag: The Game, but I'm finding myself watching it more and more! It has many of the channels I would go to YouTube for, but I've also discovered several really good ones that I had never heard of. And it has a similar feel to Kagi, in the sense of "freeing" yourself from the algorithm…

This is interesting, I didn't know about Nebula. Anything to support less intrusive platforms and stop being followed for months by horrible content because you clicked on the wrong video.
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