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Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by paufernandez »

rvz wrote: post #118
GeertB wrote: post #108

Nvidia's been pretty terrible for open source / free software. No need to quote Linus Torvalds here. They want to control what runs on their hardware. They want to you write code against their proprietary drivers and APIs, not directly against the hardware (which these days of course also contains plenty of software, but still). Don't expect things to go differently this time around. Nvidia wants control over the sof…

Nvidia has hardly open sourced the nvcc compiler, yet no-one here is complaining about why it is closed source. Modular on the other hand creates the Mojo compiler gets criticised for not open sourcing it immediately and now once they do, no-one cares anymore. Huggingface was not just a target for open source, but as a force to have open weight models run better on Nvidia against the rest.

I'm still rooting for Modular, though.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by zuminator »

Symbiote wrote: post #308
kfse wrote: post #158

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The $13b doesn't go to hugging face's bank acct to pay for anything like S3 egress fees... It go to hugging face's owners' Bank accounts for them to do anything else. New cohorts of billionaires and centi millionaires getting minted.

> billionaires and centi millionaires I think you mean hecto-millionaires.

Decitrillionaires

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by SideQuark »

shric wrote: post #475
knocte wrote: post #455

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Not a fan of defending GitHub, but TBH them launching GithubActions made me abandon all other CI platforms I was using in the past, I even left GitLab just for that.

What sold you on GitHub Actions? The one 9 of reliability? https://www.githubstatus.com/

Not sure what you’re intending to show.

That page shows 99.5%+ uptime across all 11 of the services provided.

To do that at a small company world cost significant money.

To have it integrated and cheap for all those small shops is very valuable to them.

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by [deleted] »

robocat wrote: post #359
Grombobulous wrote: post #202

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Yes, that's a very good company to be the owner of iRobot, because they are just a robot factory and not a near-monopoly e-commerce retailer. They are essentially on equal footing with other robotic vacuum manufacturers. iRobot didn't go out of business or get absorbed into a larger company lowering competition in the marketplace. It's also not the FTC's job to ensure that companies, especially ones with zero/trivial…

> zero/trivial national security Huh? Robots with vision + sounds sensors and connected to the internet in professional homes across your country are definitely a security issue. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-05/robot-vacuum-deebot-e... One of the leaked images taken by Roomba robot vacuums shows a lady sitting on her toilet - personal.

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Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

hanselot wrote: post #480
fjcururuvy7 wrote: post #474

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HN failing to understand embrace extend extinguish yet again I see.

EEE is impossible already. They can't close pandoras box now. Why is it alarming for a shovel salesman to also sell plants?

Context: Liz Lemon has been buying two products together because one of them creates a need for the other.

    Jack Donaghy: The only thing I will be discussing with the House Subcommittee on Baseball, Quiz Shows, Terrorism, and Media is vertical integration.
    Liz Lemon: What's vertical integration?
    Jack Donaghy: Imagine that your favorite corn chip manufacturer also owned the number one diarrhea medication.
    Liz Lemon: That'd be great, 'cause then they could put a little sample of the medicine in each bag.
    Jack Donaghy: Keep thinking.
    Liz Lemon: [beat] Except then they might be tempted to make the corn chips give you...
    Jack Donaghy: Vertical integration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ7oht6TD9c

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by richrichardsson »

lynx97 wrote: post #478
WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #443

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You missed the whole game-ification, enshitification, copilot-ification of github, and open source theft for their AI training episodes Always like that with Microsoft apologists

Explain to me how using OPEN source for training is theft? I've (admittedly skimmed) quite a few licenses, but I really dont remember anyone restricting reading/indexing source code?

You don't relinquish copyright by using a FOSS license though, right?

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by globalise83 »

miki123211 wrote: post #468
doe88 wrote: post #422

Nvidia for Hugging Face will be even worse than Microsoft for GitHub and we know now how low the bar is here.

I heavily disagree. Nvidia has a strong interest in open source AI being a strong contender to proprietary models. They don't want a single AI company to win, as that company would then have enormous leverage over Nvidia, and could perhaps even erode the Cuda moat with their own chip spending. They want the AI market to be hypercompetitive, with AI companies focusing on competing amongst themselves instead of with Nv…

Yes, this strategy is known as "commoditize your complement"

Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B

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Post by mchinen »

That huge impromptu 2023 party at the Exploratorium Hugging Face did had such amazing covid-unthawing AI spring energy, and I keep thinking about it. It was clear then they had the momentum to do a lot of things, and more so now. So I was surprised by this news.

The party is a is a relatively small concern compared to the openness and github comparisons, but since no one else mentioned it, I hope something like it happens again. Or maybe that moment has passed.

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