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Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
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Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
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NVIDIA is one of the most open labs. They even share many of their pre-training and even post-training datasets for Nemotron on HuggingFace; for example: https://huggingface.co/datasets/nvidia/Nemotron-Post-Trainin... Which other lab shares this? Yes, there is no question NVIDIA wants to lock you into CUDA and their hardware. But also, they’ve consistently demonstrated the most openness when it comes to model trainin…
_why_ have people started to call companies “labs”?!
Because they are mostly research departments (aka a lab) turned into a corp structure. It’s not a new phenomenon, just that until recently labs didn’t get $1T valuations so you see it more now
Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
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> > NVIDIA is one of the most open labs. > Of course they are. They're commoditizing their complement Then why don't they sell consumer GPUs with tons of memory. They clearly segment the market into consumer versus server/business.
The upcoming RTX Spark [0] is aiming to fill that space -- consumer GPUs with tons of memory. [0] - https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/products/rtx-spark/
This is not a GPU, this is a laptop SoC with CPU and integrated GPU, and knowing nvidia it will probably be even more closed than an intel CPU. You will own even less of your hardware
Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
#474Nvidia for Hugging Face will be even worse than Microsoft for GitHub and we know now how low the bar is here.
I heavily disagree. Nvidia has a strong interest in open source AI being a strong contender to proprietary models. They don't want a single AI company to win, as that company would then have enormous leverage over Nvidia, and could perhaps even erode the Cuda moat with their own chip spending. They want the AI market to be hypercompetitive, with AI companies focusing on competing amongst themselves instead of with Nv…
HN failing to understand embrace extend extinguish yet again I see.
Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
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You missed the whole game-ification, enshitification, copilot-ification of github, and open source theft for their AI training episodes Always like that with Microsoft apologists
Not a fan of defending GitHub, but TBH them launching GithubActions made me abandon all other CI platforms I was using in the past, I even left GitLab just for that.
What sold you on GitHub Actions? The one 9 of reliability?
Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
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Talking about profit is so passé in the new economic paradigm. The rules have changed— it’s about how much a company is worth. Get with the times. –Some guys in every bubble I’ve witnessed.
I think Russ Hanneman calls it a "pure play" type of company. He put radio on the internet, so he would know.
Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
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I dunno. You can argue over whether they're overpaying, but it's not like Huggingface is Clinkle. They hit $150 million in ARR this year, they have tons of runway, and according to reports, have just started to even burn the money they raised a few years ago. I get that it's fun to be glib about the stupidity of tech elites and investors in general, but Huggingface have been pretty open about their financials and are…
150 million a year? Why, at that rate NVidia will make their money back in just 86 years.
If you assume no growth
Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
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To be fair Microsoft haven’t done as much integration with their eco system; such as integrating it with Azure DevOps as they could. And long may it continue.
You missed the whole game-ification, enshitification, copilot-ification of github, and open source theft for their AI training episodes Always like that with Microsoft apologists
Explain to me how using OPEN source for training is theft? I've (admittedly skimmed) quite a few licenses, but I really dont remember anyone restricting reading/indexing source code?
Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
#479HF is the default platform to find models. Not just ones published by big labs but also a lot of the distilled or fine-tuned versions, etc. If Nvidia buying HF makes it tough for all the diverse models on HF, then what are some alternatives? It seems models are the best things to be available on a Torrent platform? Of course HF is much more than just the files but perhaps the metadata can be separate and hosted on mu…
I am quite skeptical that an acquisition by Nvidia will make people move somewhere else ... The network effect remains central, if you are researcher/lab/company and you want to promote your model/dataset you go to the popular platform where most of the community is. The same way most of the public repo are still being published on GitHub despite people being pissed of by Microsoft acquisition. (I you add on top of that the cost changing your workflow, not using HF library, ... it make the transition even more difficult)
Re: Nvidia agrees to acquire Hugging Face for $13B
#480Earlier quoted context omitted.
I heavily disagree. Nvidia has a strong interest in open source AI being a strong contender to proprietary models. They don't want a single AI company to win, as that company would then have enormous leverage over Nvidia, and could perhaps even erode the Cuda moat with their own chip spending. They want the AI market to be hypercompetitive, with AI companies focusing on competing amongst themselves instead of with Nv…
HN failing to understand embrace extend extinguish yet again I see.
EEE is impossible already. They can't close pandoras box now.
Why is it alarming for a shovel salesman to also sell plants?