Pnpm 12.0 • Hacker News Board

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#11

Post by mirekrusin » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:20 AM UTC

mmmeff wrote: post #2

Am I the only one that hates the decision to no longer support corepack?

pnpm 12 supports corepack (or better phrased - corepack supports pnpm 12).

they just don't recommend it.

nodejs stopped bundling corepack since node 25, maybe you're referring to that?

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#12

Post by xiaoyu2006 » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:27 AM UTC

Time to hop off I guess. They don't even bother to write changlog on their own.

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#13

Post by jdkoeck » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:31 AM UTC

xiaoyu2006 wrote: post #12

Time to hop off I guess. They don't even bother to write changlog on their own.

Same here, what if the internals get the same absence of care? No thank you.

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#14

Post by techpression » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:42 AM UTC

winterqt wrote: post #5

Good to see the maintainers don't care enough to take the time to write a release blogpost themselves. sigh

Hey Claude, write in the worst possible claudism way you possibly can, and make it sound like every other text on the internet that is published nowadays.

"This post covers what pnpm 12 adds that pnpm 11 never shipped."

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#15

Post by 1matin » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:42 AM UTC

Whenever you see a lot of long dashes (—) in a writing, there's a high chance Claude has written it.

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#16

Post by fwlr » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:47 AM UTC

Had to check the calendar to be sure it wasn’t somehow April 1st. No, it’s August. Huh.

I don’t see how it’s possible that the pnpm maintainers are unaware of the bun AI-rewrite-to-rust saga… so I’m baffled, befuddled, and overall at a loss to make sense of this decision.

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#17

Post by GrayShade » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:51 AM UTC

fwlr wrote: post #16

Had to check the calendar to be sure it wasn’t somehow April 1st. No, it’s August. Huh. I don’t see how it’s possible that the pnpm maintainers are unaware of the bun AI-rewrite-to-rust saga… so I’m baffled, befuddled, and overall at a loss to make sense of this decision.

https://bun.com/blog/bun-v1.4 has some pretty nice numbers indeed.

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#18

Post by johnnypangs » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:53 AM UTC

fwlr wrote: post #16

Had to check the calendar to be sure it wasn’t somehow April 1st. No, it’s August. Huh. I don’t see how it’s possible that the pnpm maintainers are unaware of the bun AI-rewrite-to-rust saga… so I’m baffled, befuddled, and overall at a loss to make sense of this decision.

To be fair to the pnpm maintainers, they have been working on this well before the bun AI rewrite. The first commit in their rust experiment is in 2021.

https://github.com/pnpm/pn/commits/main/?after=e24c0b293f1f4...

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#19

Post by norman784 » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:53 AM UTC

I got to the conclusion that boring is good enough, for me NPM is the best tool, is not that fast, but the installation speed is not that bad, considering how many times I need to run from scratch, the difference does not matter, it is stable and it's the default Node package manager, so I don't need to bother to install in CI any other tool, etc. My experience for long living projects is to stick with the defaults, because in a few years third party tools will change, it happen to my team with Yarn classic, now that we are with vanilla Node and NPM no worries, same with 3rd party dependencies, just use as less as possible.

Re: Pnpm 12.0

#20

Post by taspeotis » Thu, Aug 27, 2026, 6:56 AM UTC

norman784 wrote: post #19

I got to the conclusion that boring is good enough, for me NPM is the best tool, is not that fast, but the installation speed is not that bad, considering how many times I need to run from scratch, the difference does not matter, it is stable and it's the default Node package manager, so I don't need to bother to install in CI any other tool, etc. My experience for long living projects is to stick with the defaults,…

I have the same experience - npm was bad, now it is fast enough.