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U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by defrost »

unselect5917 wrote: post #618
dwaltrip wrote: post #512

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously? You don’t like non-white people?

No more than they like white people. The only race in any study you can find shows that every racial group prefers themselves the most, other races less, and whites the least. Except white people. Who've been conditioned to get rid of their in-group bias. If HN supported images, I could show you the charts. I looked at that data and decided deliberately, out of rational self interest to be just like them and put my o…

> The only race in any study you can find shows that every racial group prefers themselves the most, other races less, and whites the least.

Hard to parse .. ESL ?

That aside, what made up assertive nonsense is this? There are many stories and studies about various non Caucasian groups WhiteMaxxing to make themselves look more Caucasian because .

eg: (2013) - Asian women are turning to plastic surgery to look more Caucasian https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/asian-women-are-tur...

Re: U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #486
baby_souffle wrote: post #473

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> The moral issue is the same in both cases: there’s a big sign that says “temporary.” People have chosen to ignore the sign. No. Your analogy works well solely for the concept of temporary authorization. If you're offering up 2h parking as proof that the moral stakes are equivalent...

The principle is the same; the magnitude is different. I don't see why adjusting the magnitude should affect the principle.

Then you don't see why stealing $10 is a misdemeanor and stealing $1000 is a felony (depending on jurisdiction, but whatever you get the point). Not saying you should see why, just that many clearly do for it to be public policy.

But it makes me wonder: do you think the $10 theft should be punished more heavily (minimum 1 year in prison), or the $1000 theft punished more lightly (maximum 1 year in prison)?

Re: U.S. State Department pauses immigrant visa applications

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Post by ab8 »

ks2048 wrote: post #536
yalogin wrote: post #37

This one doesn’t mention tourist visas, so I am guessing they will be issued? I don’t get what benefit they see by inconveniencing and potentially harming folks that are already in the country legally to just live their lives. I get that this administration’s goal is to completely shut down all immigration and potentially even remove folks here legally too but there will be a cost to bear for the country because of t…

"tourist visas" is in the sub-headline. "The State Department and Department of Homeland Security are reviewing all B-1 business and B-2 tourist visas, he said."

That is reference to people who have applied for asylum after having come in on a tourist visa. Technically their status is legal, because they have a pending application. This is an attempt to make their status illegal, so they can be deported.

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Post by itake »

latch wrote: post #605
Solstafir wrote: post #560

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There are arguments from the other side too. Many H1B folks do keep one foot back in the country they are from. But then a lot of backlash on specifically Indian folks for sending most of their salary back home. They know that this is transient state, many of them have rented housing, but still these visas are not like weekly visas, they are for 3 years, people would build somewhat of a life in that time and uprootin…

Who's angry about how people are spending their already-taxed income? Is that really a thing? Is it sincere or just racism masked as "think of the economy"? (Honest question, Not American. Don't live there, news to me).

The big beautiful bill included a 1% foreign remittance tax for outbound international transfers funded using physical cash, money orders, and cashier's checks.

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Post by dalyons »

foltik wrote: post #594
15155 wrote: post #557

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Do you have anything constructive to say about the merits of the leave to renew policy itself? Or the zero notice halt of visa processing? Or just vague gesturing about how immigrants aren’t entitled to anything? (but you presumably are!)

You know the answer to this. It’s only going to be anti immigrant dog whistles

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Post by ab8 »

anonym29 wrote: post #98

This is really frustrating. I'm (native-born US citizen) naviagting the visa process with my future wife. She has no intentions of working (enjoys being NEET) and there's zero risk of her becoming a public charge (our hh gross income is closer to 7 digits than it is to 5 digits), very frustrating that we're getting screwed by this under the justification of labor market competition and public charge risk.

I hope she is white

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Post by ab8 »

nekusar wrote: post #290

Well, for starters, good. We all know this whole H1-B situation was to cripple wages and to get an indentured workforce. Glad its being "paused". Would love to it being modified to not being tied to a company, or gottennrid of for good. Sorry about the people who were using it, but also not sorry. Maybe we Americans can get some of those jobs the companies were scamming the govt with.

Why would you want to work for a scamming company?

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Post by foltik »

0xDEAFBEAD wrote: post #554
epistasis wrote: post #248

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How, in any way does this help the wellbeing of a citizen? Why bring up that very strange point, which is completely unconnected to the massive harm here. If anything, these policies harm the citizens of the US in a myriad of ways. There's zero benefit to be had from any of this. Except for the joy tha tthe cruel feel in causing others misery, but that's not citizens, that's just a few sick people.

>There's zero benefit to be had from any of this. From the article: "Updated guidance and training were being put in place to ensure that visa applicants don’t become a public charge under U.S. law or depend on government benefits intended for Americans in need, a spokesman for the department said Wednesday."

The implication that visa applicants are receiving government benefits intended for Americans is completely unsubstantiated.
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