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Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Real-time democracy running a business This is not a competitive advantage

Neither is dictatorship?

Business actually treats a pseudo-dictatorship (with the requisite yes-men) as "good leadership".

Most times it's pretty simple, in my experience. A CEO either runs a business as a (1) Sales focus [best deals and vendors] or (2) Marketing focus [best reputation and trends] or (3) Investor focus [best boardroom friends].

Lots of other opinions are usually thrown out until there's really only one facet used for running the company.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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What does a CEO(and other managers) do really? Sometimes the claim is "set vision" - which AI can extract from the collective. Someimes the claim is to prioritize the work (with bias), AI can extract that from the collective too, right? Making resources available to the team? AI. Coordinating between teams? AI. Can the AI do this in a more un-biased way? Can it refine collective intelligence and desire into objective…

At my current job, a 10 person startup, the CEOs job is to generate leads, talk to potential customers, and close deals. He, along with the other founders, shape what we work on based on what he thinks it’s possible for us to sell. He’s essential to the business. At my previous 50k person company I never talked to anyone within 4 levels of the CEO and thought he was useless. But realistically he probably had a somewh…

Similar, yes, but instead of finding out who else can give you money at 10 people, they have to find out who else they have to give money at 10k people. Leads and lobbies.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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A serious point about this is that it's an AI that's an organization. This matters.

People laughed at Gas Town, and at that "Fences, not Sandboxes" article yesterday.[1] They're both AIs set up as an organization, not an emulated human. They're both expensive to operate, because the AI members of the organization spend a lot of time talking with each other. They're both applied to frivolous problems.

Now we have the same concept, applied to a more useful problem. It's time to pay attention. Something important is happening here.

Everybody has been talking about "human-level AI", or "superhuman-level AI". This is a different kind of AI - corporate-level AI. It works and thinks like a company's management. It watches a wide range of data sources and responds to some of them with action, and some with internal discussion within the AIs. It can potentially pay attention to far more inputs than any human. That overcomes a basic problem of corporate organization.

A classic management failure is not paying enough attention to something. This is usually not a problem for computer systems. Humans are bandwidth-limited. Teams of AIs are far less bandwidth-limited. They may soon be outperforming humans for that reason alone.

Think about this for a while. These team AI systems may be very useful.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49423146

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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CEO here, thanks just fired all my C suite team, https://github.com/SenteLabsAI/OpenExecutive/blob/main/packa... “Walking away costs you the deal. Signing costs you the company. The math is obvious in retrospect; harder in the moment when there's quota pressure” such valuable, should I say load-bearing insights Other gem from my new CFO: “The financial statements are the result. The variance analysis is where the ope…

The only thing worse than a human CEO is an AI CEO with power to fire you. People just don't think it will do stupid things, have nonsensicle orders which they have to follow, and likely fire people left right and center.

But oh ho there is no human ceo, must be a good place to work!!

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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post #6

What does a CEO(and other managers) do really? Sometimes the claim is "set vision" - which AI can extract from the collective. Someimes the claim is to prioritize the work (with bias), AI can extract that from the collective too, right? Making resources available to the team? AI. Coordinating between teams? AI. Can the AI do this in a more un-biased way? Can it refine collective intelligence and desire into objective…

Marketing and they hire and fire important people. That's about it though, where we should take the product, what features to do next, partnerships, these are pretty obvious to anyone paying attention.

I don't think these things are obvious. I've worked at many places that have had big, company-changing forks in the road available to them and navigating those forks wasn't easy (and in my opinion several times we chose wrong). The crowd wasn't always right or even well aligned and sometimes the only agreement was that a middle of the road approach would be worse. My intuition says getting that right takes a lot of luck, good momentum, and a lot of departments working well together (bringing in and communicating market info, broadcasting marketing that works, making good partnerships, etc). The cynic in me thinks one big impact of a ceo is the various cheating and corruption tools that can make some of those things easier or at least less critical to get right (you don't need to make good cybertrucks or convince people to buy them if the government agrees to buy 450k of them as "armored vehicles", for example).

If that kind of thing is easy for you (the honest ones or the clandestine ones) then you might make a really strong entrepreneur/business leader.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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The best use of AI is to replace CEOs, C-Suite, politicians and bureaucrats. Let them feel the heat for the first time in their life. Interested folks can start by putting in shareholder resolutions with the proposal and the prompts that would replace CEO. SKILLs.md?

No the best use is to replace hacker news commentors. Let them feel the heat for the fist time in their life.

See you can add anything there and the sentence will make sense.

I will never vote for an AI system to actually make laws lol wtf are you even saying

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Number of people who think that a leader or a CEO can be replaced by AI and who themselves have actually risked everything to start a company, be a leader, or do anything similar: exactly 0.

What are your qualifications to say that?

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Based on my observations, the most important characteristics of a CEO is to be over 6ft, and to walk about looking important. CEO jobs are safe until the humanoid robots have mastered this skill.

My SVP is 6'4". 6 measly feet aint cutting it, that's just "king of manlets" territory.

Reject ‘manlet’ — RETVRN to ‘bantam’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantam_(military)

> One of the miners, rejected on account of his size, offered to fight any man there as proof of his suitability as a soldier, and six men were eventually called upon to remove him.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Based on my observations, the most important characteristics of a CEO is to be over 6ft, and to walk about looking important. CEO jobs are safe until the humanoid robots have mastered this skill.

I'm under 6ft and have never been a CEO, so this appears to check out.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Based on my observations, the most important characteristics of a CEO is to be over 6ft, and to walk about looking important. CEO jobs are safe until the humanoid robots have mastered this skill.

I think either gray hair or bald does a lot too.
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