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Re: Mechanical Turk shutting down September 30

#51

Post by x0xMaximus »

charcircuit wrote: post #49
x0xMaximus wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The industry is so backwards, there are residential proxy companies that are directly paid by one of the largest market research firms. I have discussed this at length https://www.reddit.com/r/Marketresearch/comments/1s2tl0o/ope... It should be a bipartisan issue that a Swedish company is paying a UAE Residential Proxy company [1] to build tools that allow people from anywhere in the world to take US political polls…

Someone using an IP that a geoip database says is US, doesn't mean that person is a US voter. The existence of proxies on the internet is a feature.

Obviously, a problem not even fully addressed by L2’s datasets. Sure, but the use of proxies to masquerade the identity of users being sold to researcher buyers that paid for a different service is fraud

Re: Mechanical Turk shutting down September 30

#52

Post by swyx »

x0xMaximus wrote: post #13
jan_Inkepa wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

our of curiosity, can you say what your use of it was?

Initially the annotation of biomedical literature ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25592589/ ) but left academia for commercial use where we transitioned to arbitrage the market research and ephemeral task markets. It was essentially a research panel with a underdeveloped UI for tasks.. so abstract away AMT's tooling so it can be used by any buyer in the ResTech, Political Polling and Data Annotation space My favori…

> My favorite part of AMT is always going to be figuring out that if we only paid in $0.07 intervals, their commission algorithm would round down to the nearest whole cent when their 20% commission resulted in a fractional cent on the unit transaction level, not the monthly invoice level.

can someone ELI5 because what in the office space

Re: Mechanical Turk shutting down September 30

#53

Post by DrewADesign »

tourist2d wrote: post #23
loremm wrote: post #20

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I truly have no idea what this website is saying https://generalresearch.com/

It smells like they don't know what they're doing. Had a lol at the mission page accidentally implying their customers are unethical though: > Our Customers > Ripe with fraud, labor exploitation, political polling manipulation; our customers demand the best tools and security ...

At least they’re ripe! I hate unripe customers, rife with astringency, sharp vegetal notes, and an unpleasant, unyielding texture.

Re: Mechanical Turk shutting down September 30

#54

Post by ramses0 »

swyx wrote: post #52
x0xMaximus wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Initially the annotation of biomedical literature ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25592589/ ) but left academia for commercial use where we transitioned to arbitrage the market research and ephemeral task markets. It was essentially a research panel with a underdeveloped UI for tasks.. so abstract away AMT's tooling so it can be used by any buyer in the ResTech, Political Polling and Data Annotation space My favori…

> My favorite part of AMT is always going to be figuring out that if we only paid in $0.07 intervals, their commission algorithm would round down to the nearest whole cent when their 20% commission resulted in a fractional cent on the unit transaction level, not the monthly invoice level. can someone ELI5 because what in the office space

Go watch Superman III for more details...

Re: Mechanical Turk shutting down September 30

#55

Post by parineum »

x0xMaximus wrote: post #46
m3rc wrote: post #38

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What's up with the part of the website where you are talking about "neutralized foreign actors", was that also using contracted Mechanical Turk labor?

The industry is so backwards, there are residential proxy companies that are directly paid by one of the largest market research firms. I have discussed this at length https://www.reddit.com/r/Marketresearch/comments/1s2tl0o/ope... It should be a bipartisan issue that a Swedish company is paying a UAE Residential Proxy company [1] to build tools that allow people from anywhere in the world to take US political polls…

Polling data isn't some guaranteed right or something. If you ask the Internet questions and then sell the collated answers, it's your job to authenticate the responses or your polls will be wildly wrong and people will stop buying them.

Which is already the case and nobody but a bunch of campaign contractors who can't justify their do nothing jobs anymore cares.

Re: Mechanical Turk shutting down September 30

#57

Post by testbjjl »

x0xMaximus wrote: post #2

As AMT's largest requester for the past 10 years, this news was relayed to requesters at the same time as respondents. It's also worth noting that our lead contact, the Sr Program Manager at AWS leading AMT, transitioned to Amazon Bedrock and SageMaker Model Evaluations a ~2-3 years ago.. Leaving behind essential zero team managing the project after they migrated over the stored value accounts to native AWS billing.

Sounds like your program manager was smart and valuable to the company. Do you have any plans to replace the service/data provided by MTurk?

Re: Mechanical Turk shutting down September 30

#58

Post by owebmaster »

swyx wrote: post #52
x0xMaximus wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Initially the annotation of biomedical literature ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25592589/ ) but left academia for commercial use where we transitioned to arbitrage the market research and ephemeral task markets. It was essentially a research panel with a underdeveloped UI for tasks.. so abstract away AMT's tooling so it can be used by any buyer in the ResTech, Political Polling and Data Annotation space My favori…

> My favorite part of AMT is always going to be figuring out that if we only paid in $0.07 intervals, their commission algorithm would round down to the nearest whole cent when their 20% commission resulted in a fractional cent on the unit transaction level, not the monthly invoice level. can someone ELI5 because what in the office space

20% of 0.07 was billed as 1 cent, not 1.4 nor rounded up to 2.

Re: Mechanical Turk shutting down September 30

#59

Post by testbjjl »

swyx wrote: post #52
x0xMaximus wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Initially the annotation of biomedical literature ( https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25592589/ ) but left academia for commercial use where we transitioned to arbitrage the market research and ephemeral task markets. It was essentially a research panel with a underdeveloped UI for tasks.. so abstract away AMT's tooling so it can be used by any buyer in the ResTech, Political Polling and Data Annotation space My favori…

> My favorite part of AMT is always going to be figuring out that if we only paid in $0.07 intervals, their commission algorithm would round down to the nearest whole cent when their 20% commission resulted in a fractional cent on the unit transaction level, not the monthly invoice level. can someone ELI5 because what in the office space

It was cheaper and looser automated billing practices than current AI “solutions”?

Re: Mechanical Turk shutting down September 30

#60

Post by x0xMaximus »

parineum wrote: post #55
x0xMaximus wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The industry is so backwards, there are residential proxy companies that are directly paid by one of the largest market research firms. I have discussed this at length https://www.reddit.com/r/Marketresearch/comments/1s2tl0o/ope... It should be a bipartisan issue that a Swedish company is paying a UAE Residential Proxy company [1] to build tools that allow people from anywhere in the world to take US political polls…

Polling data isn't some guaranteed right or something. If you ask the Internet questions and then sell the collated answers, it's your job to authenticate the responses or your polls will be wildly wrong and people will stop buying them. Which is already the case and nobody but a bunch of campaign contractors who can't justify their do nothing jobs anymore cares.

Exactly, it’s a beautiful thing when the market is rational https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CINT.ST/
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