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GitHub Outage Tracker: Is GitHub Cooked?

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Re: GitHub Outage Tracker: Is GitHub Cooked?

#91
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I think we need to have a little more sympathy for GitHub. You could justify the jabs when we could all blame any outage on the migration to Azure, but then they shared numbers around the scale they're dealing with now that everyone is constantly building and pushing with AI. I think it's commendable that they're not limiting access to the site or (intentionally) throttling newcomers. Yes, they need to get this figur…

Sympathy? It's a Microsoft company that is being ran with a consistency of a startup in early seed rounds. Their downtime is abhorrent and unacceptable as far as enterprise goes. Their engineers look like absolute amateurs allowing for such low class work it results in their customers experiencing industry leading downtime.

That seems a bit crass but the underlying sentiment stands. Microsoft has more money than God. 4T valuation. When you say you’re worth that much, no excuses. Figure it out.

Re: GitHub Outage Tracker: Is GitHub Cooked?

#92
post #87

I think we need to have a little more sympathy for GitHub. You could justify the jabs when we could all blame any outage on the migration to Azure, but then they shared numbers around the scale they're dealing with now that everyone is constantly building and pushing with AI. I think it's commendable that they're not limiting access to the site or (intentionally) throttling newcomers. Yes, they need to get this figur…

If you do the math, their numbers are something like 1000 commits per second. That's not pushes per second either, it's just the total number of commits summed up over a week, not all of which trigger much of anything to happen. Yes, that is scale. And yes, that's not actual requests per second. But it's the sort of scale that big (and even mid-sized) tech has known how to deal with for decades. Microsoft doesn't hav…

Their excuse is called Azure and if you’ve ever had to deal with it you’d know it’s an amazing(ly awful) excuse to have.

Re: GitHub Outage Tracker: Is GitHub Cooked?

#94

Given that the outages are caused by record traffic, so far they are only cooked in the Yogi Berra sense of “Nobody goes there anymore, it’s too crowded”

Gets me wondering… if I get used to the fact that some location is busy, I stop going there. Other people might do the same. Could this create a detectable wavy signal over time? People stop going because it’s busy. It stops being busy. People go because it’s not busy. Repeat. Is this a known phenomenon?

Closest thing would be the “El Farol Bar problem”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Farol_Bar_problem

Re: GitHub Outage Tracker: Is GitHub Cooked?

#96

Is GitHub Cooked? Decidedly yes. Migrating to something else has been raised as a concern during every engagement with clients and prospective clients in the past year. "Do you use GitHub?" "Yes though we'd like to move to something else, we just don't know what yet." As soon as the next big thing shows up, they're done. And they know it.

I wonder if this is a Microsoft Excel situation where everyone

1. Hates the status quo

2. Only uses a handful of the 10,000 features the status quo has

3. Uses a different handful than everyone else

Because that model kept Excel as the center of buisnesses around the world for 30 years and counting

Re: GitHub Outage Tracker: Is GitHub Cooked?

#97

I think we need to have a little more sympathy for GitHub. You could justify the jabs when we could all blame any outage on the migration to Azure, but then they shared numbers around the scale they're dealing with now that everyone is constantly building and pushing with AI. I think it's commendable that they're not limiting access to the site or (intentionally) throttling newcomers. Yes, they need to get this figur…

> I think we need to have a little more sympathy for GitHub

We certainly do not.

Re: GitHub Outage Tracker: Is GitHub Cooked?

#98
post #23

I think we need to have a little more sympathy for GitHub. You could justify the jabs when we could all blame any outage on the migration to Azure, but then they shared numbers around the scale they're dealing with now that everyone is constantly building and pushing with AI. I think it's commendable that they're not limiting access to the site or (intentionally) throttling newcomers. Yes, they need to get this figur…

Sympathy? It's a Microsoft company that is being ran with a consistency of a startup in early seed rounds. Their downtime is abhorrent and unacceptable as far as enterprise goes. Their engineers look like absolute amateurs allowing for such low class work it results in their customers experiencing industry leading downtime.

If you haven't read this, you really have no idea what they are dealing with. https://cursor.com/blog/git-at-any-scale

Re: GitHub Outage Tracker: Is GitHub Cooked?

#99
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is uncharitable, rude, and pretty baseless. Unless you have a lot of direct, personal information about GitHub engineers, they’re dealing with a huge spike in traffic. Is their uptime acceptable? No. But personal attacks aren’t necessary or constructive.

How low would uptime have to get before you'd consider holding the engineers personally responsible for it?

Why are we holding the engineers accountable and not the CEO? The company isn’t one department. Responsibility should bubble up to the top.

Re: GitHub Outage Tracker: Is GitHub Cooked?

#100
post #96

Is GitHub Cooked? Decidedly yes. Migrating to something else has been raised as a concern during every engagement with clients and prospective clients in the past year. "Do you use GitHub?" "Yes though we'd like to move to something else, we just don't know what yet." As soon as the next big thing shows up, they're done. And they know it.

I wonder if this is a Microsoft Excel situation where everyone 1. Hates the status quo 2. Only uses a handful of the 10,000 features the status quo has 3. Uses a different handful than everyone else Because that model kept Excel as the center of buisnesses around the world for 30 years and counting

People don't hate Excel. Well - maybe programmers who don't use it hate it.

In reality, Excel is the only reason Microsoft still exists.

Excel is how they lure you in. Excel really is the best spreadsheet, its the only one every doc you are sent works with, but also the one people know inside and out. And if you are into Pivot tables, PowerQuery, etc there is just no escaping it. You are utterly stuck.

But here is how they get you: its not much more to rent the whole office suite compared to just Excel. And as long as you are into it that far, Outlook and Teams are much cheaper than GSuite + Slack. And still...okish? No, not really. But we pretend. And it wouldn't happen without Excel.

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