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Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by ibejoeb »

ModernMech wrote: post #66
giancarlostoro wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Reddit is now this way too. Which is why OpenAI formed a partnership with reddit, in exchange for access to OpenAI's models, OpenAI gets access to reddit's data, and access to reddits live feed. The reason X and Reddit started forcing accounts is to prevent or add barrier for web scraping, and forcing companies to pay for access to the data.

Notably this was called a “temporary emergency measure” by Elon Musk — yet another promise he couldn’t keep https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-now-needs-users-s...

I'm fine with the criticism, but what's the solution? And what makes this a uniquely Elon problem when the rest of the social media industry does the same? There was backlash when the models learned computer programming from open source repositories, so I wonder if the same applies to casual speech.

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Post by deltoidmaximus »

alyeska2 wrote: post #56
kemotep wrote: post #27

I used Twitter for over 10 years without an account then suddenly in 2022 that was completely disrupted and no longer an option. Reddit is now this way too. But I find it ridiculous that Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. get used by government agencies and local businesses to post announcements and these sites are increasingly if not completely unusable without being logged in (and in some cases requiring an app inst…

Even worse, it's hard or impossible to even have an account with any shred of privacy. I've tried to create pseudoanonymous accounts on both Bluesky and Twitter and then had them be instantly banned before I ever used them. Not even doing anything real privacy like TOR or a VPN, just trying to create an account without revealing my personal phone number. Ironically, their attempts to crack down on bots means real peo…

I wouldn't even care if they blocked my anonymous account from posting or really interacting besides reading things. But of course, preventing bot actions isn't actually why I need an account so they aren't going to let you do that.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by deltoidmaximus »

omoikane wrote: post #80
filoleg wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to clarify, what do you mean by "without revealing my personal phone number"? Did you use a voip number (e.g., Google Voice/Twilio/etc.) instead? Or somehow no number at all? Or a secondary (real) phone number, and Twitter somehow determined it wasn't your primary personal phone number? Not pushing back against what you said, just trying to understand what factually happened.

Bluesky didn't require phone numbers back when it was invite only, and then there was a period of time after they allowed everyone to create accounts where users need a phone number to verify. That requirement might have been replaced by a captcha according to: https://github.com/bluesky-social/social-app/issues/2762 But I didn't try to create an account recently, maybe they went back to requiring phone numbers.

Lots of services demand your phone number after the fact now, hoping to use the sunk cost fallacy to extort it out of you when you're in a hurry.

Walmart recently deleted my phone number from my account for vague reasons but most likely because another account had the same number. That other account is my wife and the number is our VoIP line. I have no desire to interact with walmart through my cell phone so I didn't give it to them. So I used a google voice number, which is not my number, to get back in. Then they just bought my actual cell number from my credit card company and autopopulated the field. Jokes on me!

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Post by 100percentjake »

angoragoats wrote: post #75
nomilk wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Musk is aggressively optimistic on what can be achieved and by when, but rational on product decisions. Musk stating that read-only scroll should be allowed seems very sensible (I think we all agree on that). But he (or someone he delegated to) clearly changed their mind. Intrigued to know why. Occam's razor would probably suggest that allowing scrapers to host twitter posts elsewhere costs them ad revenue, so they m…

> Musk is aggressively optimistic on what can be achieved and by when That’s putting it quite charitably, IMO. > but rational on product decisions Hard disagree. You only need to look to his entire tenure at DOGE for literally hundreds (thousands?) of counterexamples. Or, if you don’t count that work as “product decisions,” there are other highly questionable product decisions that he is responsible for: the rear doo…

I am certifiably not a fan of Musk but the yoke in the cybertruck when combined with the drive by wire steering is an absolute engineering masterpiece and a masterclass in systems calibration. The yoke itself has a relatively narrow range of motion of .94 turns lock-to-lock and at slow parking lot speeds that means you can do a 3 point turn, park, parallel park, navigate around, without making large movements of the steering input and you never have to (because you physically cannot) go hand-over-hand. Then at highway speeds the steering ratio is vastly different and the vehicle feels solid as a rock. It's absolutely effortless.

Now, on the flipside, the yoke also exists in the Tesla Model S Plaid, which has a traditional manual rack. In here it is the worst god-damned thing to ever curse a vehicle. The width is roughly the diameter of a school bus steering wheel and going hand over hand with it is annoying at best and the whole experience feels like utter garbage.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by seahorseemoji »

celsoazevedo wrote: post #45

Politics aside, Twitter/X has become a bad place to share information on and to link to. It's a bad option from a technical point of view. We can't read a multi-part tweet (or follow-ups from the author) or check the latest updates from an official account without an account, which requires a mobile phone number and sometimes extra verifications. A digital "town square" can't require an account and a phone number to…

I wish I understood why the majority of the AI discussions happen on Twitter/X.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by oriettaxx »

https://www.autistici.org offer great services with very strong effort to protect privacy, for more then 20 years, now... and all is done by volunteers.

Very proud of their work, and kudos for affecting how the world is handling information and their will to do good

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by angoragoats »

100percentjake wrote: post #85
angoragoats wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Musk is aggressively optimistic on what can be achieved and by when That’s putting it quite charitably, IMO. > but rational on product decisions Hard disagree. You only need to look to his entire tenure at DOGE for literally hundreds (thousands?) of counterexamples. Or, if you don’t count that work as “product decisions,” there are other highly questionable product decisions that he is responsible for: the rear doo…

I am certifiably not a fan of Musk but the yoke in the cybertruck when combined with the drive by wire steering is an absolute engineering masterpiece and a masterclass in systems calibration. The yoke itself has a relatively narrow range of motion of .94 turns lock-to-lock and at slow parking lot speeds that means you can do a 3 point turn, park, parallel park, navigate around, without making large movements of the…

> Now, on the flipside, the yoke also exists in the Tesla Model S Plaid, which has a traditional manual rack. In here it is the worst god-damned thing to ever curse a vehicle.

Yes, as I said, bad product decisions.

Re: Twitter Viewer – View Twitter Without Account

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Post by newsomix9xl »

RIMR wrote: post #18
newsomix9xl wrote: post #6

I ignored Twitter before Musk bought it and oddly I still have no problem ignoring it. It doesn't even have good cat pictures.

Literally every time I decide to stop ignoring X, I log in and am greeted with overt racism and religious hatred. Always a good reminder to just ignore that cesspit. I guess other people have more tolerance than I do for the constant stream of hatred that floats to the top of the algorithm like scum over there.

Totes. I searched for cat pics and within a few results I was being given racially charged fights.
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