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France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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I was curious and just looked it up: Germany reached 36.8% in 2024 ( https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Pressemitteilung... ).

Germany is planning for 2035. Everything is now pushed to 2035 - rail infrastructure , digitisation, removal of fax as an official method etc.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Spain is at 96.79% (June 2025), up from 94.79% a year before. See [0] I think France and Spain are the best of the big European countries regarding coverage, but also adoption: If we look at the adoption ranking globally, Spain sits fourth at 90%, behind the UAE, China and South Korea and ahead of France at 83.6%. Very few European countries convert coverage into subscriptions that efficiently, and I think it's drive…

Damn, we pay $110 for 5Gbps in Seattle only because the 2Gbps would be $100. Cellular plans are also a lot cheaper in Europe :(

I pay £6 per month for a sim only contract, which gives me 4GB of data. In the USA I feel like I was paying closer to $40-50 for a google fi sim? Which admittedly did have better roaming. Now I just get an e-sim for travel and it works out to be £3ish per day

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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It's pretty insane. Our family has a holiday home in a fairly mountainous region in central-southern France. Dwindling population, no major tourist activity, wine production. We'd long suffered the worst imaginable 56k but in 2018, the local ISP just ran fibre out to everyone . I think the current service is cheaper than the 56k was too, and far cheaper than any of the 4/5G options back then. What I mean (vis á vis i…

Wonder how many thousands of taxpayer dollars was spent for this. Does not seem efficient.

> how many thousands of taxpayer dollars

$0. It's taxpayers euros.

But it's not inefficient if this fixes a chicken-egg problem: overcrowded big city and underpopulated rural area sucks.

Nobody can/wants to go in rural area if they can't make a living there. A fiber speed Internet unlocks lifestyle for many.

It's the same as investing in say a high speed railway between major cities A and B and adding a middle-of-nowhere stop C midway. That C then can flourish to become a medium/major city... So while the initial investment looked like a waste, it's beneficial to provide a better life for people living in both A,B, and C.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Wonder how many thousands of taxpayer dollars was spent for this. Does not seem efficient.

How is it inefficient? This is the whole point of government: how much economic activity is happening over 56k? Virtually none. You could make the same argument for paving the street and repairing the sidewalk in front of your house . Chances are the property taxes from the average single family home don't cover just the basic street repairs, let alone all the other services your local government provides. Yet we do…

If we assume $20k to run the fiber, you could do starlink for a long time. There are internet options other than fiber. Unless there is no other options in France than fiber. What if France got a contract with starlink? Brought the cost down of that.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Currently typing this from my vacation house in France, in a rural area, with vineyards nearby. Closest highway is a 45 minutes drive (!). Now, sure, it is a fancy place in that it's Provence's seaside and, well, I can see big yachts from my couch but it's still in the middle of nowhere . At night it's wild boars (which my cat hates), snakes (which my wife hates) and toads everywhere. It's a very sparsely populated a…

Spain is worse, to prevent illegal soccer match streaming they ban a ton of IPs during matches. So tons of hosts (like Cloudflare) become inaccessible. And that's managed by a private organization. In France I'm not aware of any ISP that even blocks torrents, though there is hadopi so you can get a fine. All blocks I'm aware of are DNS only, so trivial to bypass.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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And here in SF we have like 55%? Been waiting for it for 10 years in my hood.

I spent a lot of time in SF in the early 2010s and I couldn't believe how absolutely terrible the internet was in the heart of silicon valley. It's incredibly sad honestly. You'd expect that SF would have the worlds top internet speeds, but nope. It was quite disappointing.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Wonder how many thousands of taxpayer dollars was spent for this. Does not seem efficient.

> how many thousands of taxpayer dollars $0. It's taxpayers euros. But it's not inefficient if this fixes a chicken-egg problem: overcrowded big city and underpopulated rural area sucks. Nobody can/wants to go in rural area if they can't make a living there. A fiber speed Internet unlocks lifestyle for many. It's the same as investing in say a high speed railway between major cities A and B and adding a middle-of-now…

You can bring internet to these other places other than by running a 1km fiber cable, which may be more efficient. Think about it, run. A cable super long to one house or use a dish? Unless there is truly no other options in france

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Glad that France built it out now. From now on the fibers price will rise significantly like HBM, NAND chips, power line transformers due to the AI boom.

Any evidence of this happening? I imagine that fiber manufacturing is much easier to scale up than chip manufacturing (of course, the devices that attach to the fiber might be a different story).

In the US it's going up, but there's partially due to Buy America & certain colossal grant programs.
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