The Uk could have been in 100% in the 90s and saved us decades of copper theft.
https://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/how-the-uk-lost...
France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
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Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
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>Our area is never going to generate the return on internet alone for the isp? maybe. for the gdp? well, i imagine that a lot of highly paid remote labor would love to be located in rural France.
Isn't starlink and its competitors a cheaper way for rural places to get fast internet?
I'm guessing that right now many countries wouldn't like the idea of areas being served solely by an American ISP.
Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Our area is never going to generate the return on internet alone for the isp? maybe. for the gdp? well, i imagine that a lot of highly paid remote labor would love to be located in rural France.
Isn't starlink and its competitors a cheaper way for rural places to get fast internet?
Satellite services make an end run through a lot of bullshit, that’s true, but the long term costs of fiber are overestimated because cable companies want a very fast profit. Whereas thousands and thousands of satellites will need to be replaced year after year and that rate could increase considerably if Kessler syndrome develops.
Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Our area is never going to generate the return on internet alone for the isp? maybe. for the gdp? well, i imagine that a lot of highly paid remote labor would love to be located in rural France.
Isn't starlink and its competitors a cheaper way for rural places to get fast internet?
the advantage of local infrastucture is that the local government can have input on the price of the good.
If starlink does something you don't like good luck doing anything about it.
Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
#155The Uk could have been in 100% in the 90s and saved us decades of copper theft. https://www.techradar.com/news/world-of-tech/how-the-uk-lost...
> saved us decades of copper theft
We don't have to work around crime! This is a defeatist attitude! Accommodating crim subsidizes it! It does not solve anything
Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Our area is never going to generate the return on internet alone for the isp? maybe. for the gdp? well, i imagine that a lot of highly paid remote labor would love to be located in rural France.
Isn't starlink and its competitors a cheaper way for rural places to get fast internet?
StarLink tops out in the 300mbit range, and has anaemic uplink speeds, whereas most fibre rollouts offer symmetrical gigabit. The latency over StarLink is also 2-5x higher than rural fibre.
StarLink beats the hell out of the copper phone lines / DSL connections a bunch of these rural communities were running on before the fibre rollout, but it's no match for proper fibre. And assuming France has price controls like Spain, the fibre will be cheaper into the bargain
Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
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How do you go about learning this about a building or neighborhood while planning a move? Its something I usually find out later
In the US, there are various websites for checking service availability based on zip code. You can fairly easily find local ISPs in a region and then use their own service checker to see if service is available at a specific address -- in other words, the same method you'd use if you already lived there and wanted to order service.
The usual complaint is that those sites are not accurate. Like back when I had 2Mbps DSL sites like that claimed I was served by 15+ ISPs that did not serve me.
Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Our area is never going to generate the return on internet alone for the isp? maybe. for the gdp? well, i imagine that a lot of highly paid remote labor would love to be located in rural France.
Isn't starlink and its competitors a cheaper way for rural places to get fast internet?
Not even remotely comparable in terms of quality
Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm incredibly lucky (even in the US) that I have symmetric 5gbit connection and can go up to 8gbit if I wanted (but I don't have everything wired for 10gbit so it doesn't make sense right now). I'd love to see more of that in the US, but know it's not happening anytime soon.
I've been considering upgrading from 1 Gbps to 5 Gbps. Have you noticed any significant benefits for any particular use cases?
I have 5Gbps symmetrical. I love having it, but the biggest use-case has been bragging about it to my colleagues. I haven't even had the full bandwidth available at my desk for a while now (I've had a terrible time terminating cat6a for reliable 10Gbe, so I'm usually on wifi), and it hasn't really bothered me much.
Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026
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> a 5G SIM with unlimited data (something you can get for 10/15 euros a month) is cheaper than a fiber connection (that starts from 25 euros). These sorts of prices are unheard of in the US, so incredibly low. Something has gone deeply wrong with US telecommunications.
You can use any one of many MVNOs to get unlimited data for around that price, say less adjusted for household income, in the USA. A favorite of mine is https://www.usmobile.com/ which is $25/mo list price (and less if you pay for the year, or if they're having a sale) which will give you Unlimited Data and 1GB a month of global roaming data If you pay $45 you can get unlimited data from Mint for $15/mo: https://www.…
In the U.S. I perceive MVNOs to be a scam. Like Tracfone was OK in 2011 but somewhere afterwards it became normal to go around rural upstate NY and no service and go around NYC and no service and go to LA and no service.
This year I got a real phone with a real plan and I have coverage in many places now me I can finally see why people get excited about apps.