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If the US government can designate their ideological opponents as terrorists without due process or any real justification, then nobody is safe.
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#22As long as the same lens is applied equally to far-right and white supremacist groups, then this is fine.
This question is rhetorical with this administration, however.
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If the US government can designate their ideological opponents as terrorists without due process or any real justification, then nobody is safe.
They’ve been doing this since the post-9/11 DHS initiative, at least.
That doesn't make it any less important to recognize when it happens.
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If the US government can designate their ideological opponents as terrorists without due process or any real justification, then nobody is safe.
I was against the Feds designating Juggalos as a "loosely-organized hybrid gang". That was ridiculous. But this is not the same. Antifa leaders and cell members have been charged and convicted, getting caught coordinating riots. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/leader-antifa-cell-members-no... And we all saw the "summer of love" in 2020. Personally I want to see more accountability. I know Antifa may be popular here, b…
Who is the leader of Antifa?
Does a charge and conviction mean that this action is good or morally justified? If so then your issue with the feds designating Juggalos as a hybrid gang would be contradicted.
This action follows the administration's established pattern of trying to tie political dissent in the US to unrelated foreign actors (often the Kurdish PKK) so that they can lay the legal footing to prosecute Americans as being actors under the control of "Foreign Terrorist Organizations"
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It's not a loosely organized group, it's a label applied (by the right) to many different groups with little to no coordination operating in entirely different places
It may have a different connotation in the US than in Europe. In US media I’ve only heard the term being used recently, in Europe it’s been around for decades.
In Europe, “Antifascist” is a label that people groups use to describe themselves, similar to how other describe themselves as patriot or pacifist. Someone carrying an Antifa flag at a protest is maybe comparable to someone carrying a Gadsden flag at a right wing rally.
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#29Why US financial sanctions against an EU-based non-profit? Making it harder to accept money from the US does not seem like quite the right tool. Are they known to be primarily sponsored by US individuals, or depending on other service providers with US presence?
It means no use of Visa or American Express bank cards, which are US companies.
I think SWIFT transactions are under US control.
No use of Apple, Google, Amazon, AirBnB, Uber, or other US-based services.
Eg, "Canadian judge Kimberly Prost is unable to use credit cards or access everyday services in what she calls an attack on the independence of the judiciary " - https://www.irishtimes.com/world/us/2025/12/12/its-surreal-u...
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If the US government can designate their ideological opponents as terrorists without due process or any real justification, then nobody is safe.
I was against the Feds designating Juggalos as a "loosely-organized hybrid gang". That was ridiculous. But this is not the same. Antifa leaders and cell members have been charged and convicted, getting caught coordinating riots. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/leader-antifa-cell-members-no... And we all saw the "summer of love" in 2020. Personally I want to see more accountability. I know Antifa may be popular here, b…
> And we all saw the "summer of love" in 2020. Personally I want to see more accountability.
I presume you mean starting with accountability for the police riots? State organized mayhem is much more of a pressing problem than violence by individuals - it's exactly the coordination dynamic you've invoked, but at an even larger scale.
Witness: we already have straightforward avenues of accountability for individuals caught engaging in violent acts while protesting - they're simply crimes already written down, enforced, and prosecuted every day. While state-supported violence, even with open and shut video evidence (eg lines of police marching down a street and slashing every car's tires), gets handwaved away as some kind of perversely necessarily official action. The former is eminently legible to the justice system, while the latter is basically illegible. Never mind how the far right terrorist contingent has now found an official home in federal "law enforcement" where they're encouraged to summarily execute uppity women and 2A enthusiasts.