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France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Post by malfist »

cm2012 wrote: post #60
pbkompasz wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FCC abolishes gigabit speed goal, suggesting it is unfair to Musk's Starlink

The Gigabit Project (edit: should be BEAD) has allocated 40 billion since 2021 and still has not finished any last mile projects.

Why lie? The Gigabit Project is a £5 billion project, not $40 billion. It has delivered last mile interconnects to 296,770 residences.

It's also a UK program and not a US program. The US has a similar program called BEAD, it has allocated $42B in funding, however, that is allocated, not spent budget. Build outs have only started this year.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Post by dolmen »

TonyTrapp wrote: post #84
yieldcrv wrote: post #78

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How do you go about learning this about a building or neighborhood while planning a move? Its something I usually find out later

Can't speak for France but in Germany, you can usually check on each ISP's website what their coverage for a specific street address is. It's one of the things I always do when I look for a new home.

Same in France.

The information is available publicly on the same web site as mentioned in this thread, with even information about the expected network throughput: https://maconnexioninternet.arcep.fr/?lat=46&lng=2.3&zoom=7&...

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Post by AndrewDucker »

testing22321 wrote: post #7
chalupa-supreme wrote: post #5

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In metro Atlanta, just outside of city limits, I was desperate for fiber for a long time. Forced to watch other neighboring cities get Google Fiber at great monthly rates. I pay a bit more with AT&T now, but it’s so worth every penny between streaming, gaming, and personal projects.

Do you really notice it with streaming? I have 80Mbps cable, and nothing has ever slowed down. If I download something over a couple of gigs I just get a glass of water and it’s done.

Absolutely. Buy multi-GB game, watch it download quickly at gigabit speeds, be able to play it two minutes later. Can't do that on 80Mbps.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Post by chermi »

vlovich123 wrote: post #68
dietr1ch wrote: post #21

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It's ironic that SF has such a bad network. When I moved there like 10yrs ago I thought I would finally have 1gig fiber, but bandwidth was on par with what I had with my parent's VDSL connection from the country side, and latencies were worse, I went from sub-5ms to 30ms because many servers were actually in LA and the routes were bad (I expected ~1ms per 100km, not ~5ms/100km). ISP gerrymandering to avoid competitio…

That’s because infra telecom is done incorrectly. Look at Sweden’s municipal fiber model how you make infrastructure cheaper and make competition actually work for customers. Having each carrier have to run lines to each customer is the wrong model. Sweden somehow got it done in a moment of sanity when the leading telecom pushed for this model.

Lol yeah it's basically early days of electricity

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Post by hylaride »

epistasis wrote: post #71
alerighi wrote: post #44

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In Italy we are at 78% of addresses covered. That doesn't mean automatically that one gets fiber. First at all, if someone doesn't need to download heavy stuff and has a good coverage a 5G SIM with unlimited data (something you can get for 10/15 euros a month) is cheaper than a fiber connection (that starts from 25 euros). Second a lot of people has still FTTC even if it has FTTH, mostly because FTTC offers a speed t…

> a 5G SIM with unlimited data (something you can get for 10/15 euros a month) is cheaper than a fiber connection (that starts from 25 euros). These sorts of prices are unheard of in the US, so incredibly low. Something has gone deeply wrong with US telecommunications.

Can't speak for Italy, but there have been some consequences in many EU jurisdictions. The EU has been pushing HARD for competition, etc, but it has left many European telecoms in debt-heavy financial situations that has caused issues around future investment and in some countries the (mobile) coverage is good on paper, but the networks are themselves actually terrible (looking at you Germany).

But yeah, it's otherwise a problem with competition enforcement.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Post by rconti »

cute_boi wrote: post #12

And here is my house, I pay $300 just to get 300 mbit downspeed and 10mb upload speed. can government STOP this fucking spectrum(Charter Communications) monopoly.

This must be bundled with TV at that price, right?

Though I know from experience that if you try to get rid of TV service they find a way to charge you more for just internet.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Post by cornichon622 »

zokier wrote: post #61

why is there such clear empty region in the middle? some regional governance thing? also why is Brittany so much worse than rest of the country, despite having relatively high pop density

These two regions are filled with a whole lot of nothing, especially the middle. That's not a reason to not cover them, but it's a reason to cover them after the others, 80/20 rule I guess.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Post by juliie »

chermi wrote: post #95

Are there downsides? I'm guessing it came from state initiative, does that mean more state control of the internet, including snooping and censorship? I don't know the best solution to fast and widely available internet, but I'm pretty sure the US isnt doing it. Starlink is the best for my mom's house 5 miles from a 100k+ "metro" center, which seems kind of absurd. Who's done it best? What's wrong with the US? Just s…

It was managed by the state, but built and owned by private companies. The installer would get 1 year of exclusivity, then any other ISP gets to use the fiber. Cost is pretty low, I get 7gb for 50€ per month, and there are cheaper plans for just 1gb

The issue is that the whole infrastructure is run at super low cost. I sometimes see a neighborhood's fiber distribution cabinet just open to the elements. Happens maybe 1-2 per year which is way too much. And there are many reports of people getting unplugged when a technician installs someone else's fiber. Low cost is good but it can go too far.

Overall it's still pretty good, and mobile is also very cheap.

Re: France reaches 94.9% fiber coverage in 2026

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Post by great_tankard »

cm2012 wrote: post #60
pbkompasz wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FCC abolishes gigabit speed goal, suggesting it is unfair to Musk's Starlink

The Gigabit Project (edit: should be BEAD) has allocated 40 billion since 2021 and still has not finished any last mile projects.

Yeah I'm sorry massive infrastructure projects with mandates to properly map access and measures to prevent fraud don't fit neatly into a four year presidential term before being effectively yanked away.
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