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It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

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Re: It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

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Post by throwaway613746 »

synalx wrote: post #3

I have this problem even in codebases. Claude will work on something, and add detailed comments in which it extrapolates the from the design and confidently states intentions and decisions which aren't actually grounded in reality. Then, later sessions suffer when it reads back those hallucinations and treats them as canonical.

Anthropic hopes you just eventually give up and become completely dependent on Claude. Toss in 10 (or more) other developers with way less discipline and you will become dissillusioned with Claude's overengineered, incomprehensible, technosalad and your demise is pretty much guaranteed.

Re: It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

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Post by [deleted] »

lupire wrote: post #9
empath75 wrote: post #5

I think having AI keep it's _own_ notes in Obsidian is a good idea because it makes them convenient for you to read, but yeah you need to quarantine agent ideas from your own ideas because otherwise you get bad cito-genesis problems. https://xkcd.com/978/

I don't understand. Are you saying that AI should write notes but then they should be excluded from the AI's context?

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Re: It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

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Post by pydry »

lupire wrote: post #7
mrtesthah wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably good to establish canonical spec documents up front that it can use and maintain as an independent reference?

Doesn't need to be "up front", but you do need to curate the context. AI can't read your mind, and it will read what you (or anyone else) wrote.

It can't but it will try and getting it to stop is often infeasible.

Re: It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

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Post by chessucation »

i've been dabbling with various assistant models and instances and find that there's an interesting "idea" that pops up from their synthesis and relevancy analysis at a decent frequency. some kind of "inverse prompting" in which the machine has an angle, perspective, opportunity (based on the context it's working with/in) and the human turns those seedlings into something useful... or else decides its weed to be discarded.

Re: It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

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Post by swiftcoder »

lupire wrote: post #9
empath75 wrote: post #5

I think having AI keep it's _own_ notes in Obsidian is a good idea because it makes them convenient for you to read, but yeah you need to quarantine agent ideas from your own ideas because otherwise you get bad cito-genesis problems. https://xkcd.com/978/

I don't understand. Are you saying that AI should write notes but then they should be excluded from the AI's context?

Two different knowledge bases. One to store AI's "learned" context, the other for you to manually edit.

Re: It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

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Post by bsjdhdudj »

synalx wrote: post #3

I have this problem even in codebases. Claude will work on something, and add detailed comments in which it extrapolates the from the design and confidently states intentions and decisions which aren't actually grounded in reality. Then, later sessions suffer when it reads back those hallucinations and treats them as canonical.

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Re: It’s so hard to finish an idea that is not yours and is just suggested by AI

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Post by mrtesthah »

empath75 wrote: post #5

I think having AI keep it's _own_ notes in Obsidian is a good idea because it makes them convenient for you to read, but yeah you need to quarantine agent ideas from your own ideas because otherwise you get bad cito-genesis problems. https://xkcd.com/978/

This might work to keep work separate:

https://github.com/eighttrigrams/us-vs-them

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