I wish AI leaders would fund more data archival projects, instead of hoarding it themselves. They could build a lot of goodwill, but the current state of the art is destroying old books and denying anyone access to them. These archival projects have an enormous impact, though they are chronically underfunded. I wish there were a strong economic incentive to support them.
Anthropic just learned to the tune of a 1.5 billion dollar settlement that making available for human consumption, even internally, instead of hoarding for AI training exclusively is a fraught exercise.
Oldinsurancemaps.net is now a Charter Project
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#22I started this project and couldn't be happier about this partnership with OSM US! Also here's a past HN thread with some more context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46788588
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anthropic just learned to the tune of a 1.5 billion dollar settlement that making available for human consumption, even internally, instead of hoarding for AI training exclusively is a fraught exercise.
Can you elaborate? I checked the news and couldn't find what you're referencing myself.
Second, apparently archiving content and providing it to others is risky business. It is often ruled as piracy, see Hachette v. Internet Archive. It went badly for Internet Archive, against common sense.
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#24I started this project and couldn't be happier about this partnership with OSM US! Also here's a past HN thread with some more context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46788588
Awesome project! Would definitely love to see more overlap with Allmaps. It’s pretty trivial to utilize centralized gcps for both server and client applications and maintain single sources of truth. I’ve been meaning to dive a bit deeper on an old project anyway, good excuse.
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#25Would be great to non-destructively scan the lower layers and date code them at some point, if/when possible.
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#26Seems like a very interesting challenge for automation of raster to vector scanning/software, and QC/checking that the raster-to-vector pipeline hasn't hallucinated something or joined two shapes together that should be discrete objects. I would presume they're starting with very high res lossless raster scans and storing those in some sort of index, then making them available for different pipelines of processing?
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#27I wish AI leaders would fund more data archival projects, instead of hoarding it themselves. They could build a lot of goodwill, but the current state of the art is destroying old books and denying anyone access to them. These archival projects have an enormous impact, though they are chronically underfunded. I wish there were a strong economic incentive to support them.
Re: Oldinsurancemaps.net is now a Charter Project
#28I started this project and couldn't be happier about this partnership with OSM US! Also here's a past HN thread with some more context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46788588
I was very excited to see this project. I went to the site and requested processing of the maps for my small town. It also inspired me to make a donation to OSM.
I should have mentioned this earlier, but folks can make direct tax-deductible donations to OldInsuranceMaps.net, which is now affiliated with OSM US's 501(c)(3) status.
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#29Re: Oldinsurancemaps.net is now a Charter Project
#30I wish AI leaders would fund more data archival projects, instead of hoarding it themselves. They could build a lot of goodwill, but the current state of the art is destroying old books and denying anyone access to them. These archival projects have an enormous impact, though they are chronically underfunded. I wish there were a strong economic incentive to support them.
Besides, this so-called goodwill is an illusion. Opposition to AI in the PR space is entirely dominated by motivated reasoning. Attempting to satisfy people with random things is simply going to shift complaints to "take the commons, chop it up, and give it back to us"; "Should AI companies be the arbiters of what is worth preserving?"; and other such things. These kind of public-relation gains are entirely fictive and neither the supposed beneficiary nor the supposed benefactor is fooled by the theory.
"Oh so they suck up all our water and burn our planet down and we're supposed to be happy that they chop up people's books (that humans spent years creating) just so they can give us digested slop back?". Everyone knows that this sentence is waiting in the wings, and that the entire effort is clearly bait so that someone is foolish enough to pull a Google Books and get sued into oblivion for it.
And that's saying nothing about this so-called "hoarding" of things in a world where we pulp tons of these hoarded things every day and no one cares to scan them.