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Re: GLM-5.3-Flash

#131

You guys read Z.ai's terms of service, right? Broad and perpetual license over inputs and outputs, and even your name and profile picture. Vague prohibitions on whatever may harm Z.ai’s "interests" or even the "national interests" of any country. Vague prohibitions on "disturbing" or "inappropriate" content, whatever that is. Vague prohibitions on discussing Z.ai, even my posting this comment violates it. Can ban you…

Chinese laws are not valid in the EU

Re: GLM-5.3-Flash

#132

You guys read Z.ai's terms of service, right? Broad and perpetual license over inputs and outputs, and even your name and profile picture. Vague prohibitions on whatever may harm Z.ai’s "interests" or even the "national interests" of any country. Vague prohibitions on "disturbing" or "inappropriate" content, whatever that is. Vague prohibitions on discussing Z.ai, even my posting this comment violates it. Can ban you…

I blocked Z.ai as soon as they were loading 10 different external providers including Alibaba who was just proven to execute silent sound fingerprinting mechanisms.

Re: GLM-5.3-Flash

#133
post #109

You guys read Z.ai's terms of service, right? Broad and perpetual license over inputs and outputs, and even your name and profile picture. Vague prohibitions on whatever may harm Z.ai’s "interests" or even the "national interests" of any country. Vague prohibitions on "disturbing" or "inappropriate" content, whatever that is. Vague prohibitions on discussing Z.ai, even my posting this comment violates it. Can ban you…

I get all that. Then alternatives are: - Grok - where I absolutely have 0 trust in X.ai's interst in "pushing humanity forward". - OpenAI and Anthropic - which seem to try to be building the biggest moat they can by pushing to ban open models. And at the same time want to be an Arbiter of what level of intelligence I can use. - Google and Meta - I don't need to talk about the practices of these companies. Yes, the te…

Or Deepseek, Qwen, any other open model hosted by whoever you trust most.

Re: GLM-5.3-Flash

#134

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If you used the bare API pricing, 1M tokens @ 30% input/70% output/50% cached, you'd pay $0.05805. Even with four discounted sparks, how much are you paying for the same tokens/distribution?

There's soooo much by way of experiments, explorations, tinkering, and even projects that you can't possibly pursue through a some SaaS API. The more reasonable comparison is against rented GPU's, while looking at tradeoffs in latency and upload/download/storage/instance management overhead. Buying hardware for local models is meeting a wholly different need than buying tokens through OpenRouter or whatever.

It cuts both ways. A GPU in your basement is a depreciating asset with fixed computing power and consumes electricity. Switching model providers is trivial.

Re: GLM-5.3-Flash

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Isn't this practically every TOS though? Nearly every TOS I've ever read has a "We can ban you for any reason, or no reason, are under no obligation to disclose any reason." line somewhere in it. HN's for example > We reserve the right, at our sole discretion, to change or modify portions of these Terms of Use at any time. > You acknowledge that Y Combinator may establish general practices and limits concerning use o…

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This is not uncommon.

Also, it only applies to their chat offering, not the api. OpenRouter also offers the API with ZDR.

While shitty, i’d say that its really not that special.

Re: GLM-5.3-Flash

#138

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God I wish I could’ve shorted NVIDIA right now

Whats stopping you? You could buy puts right now. Get a 210 strike put contract and if your thesis is that nvidias current 10 day slide continues you could make some money.

Unless NVidia craters you are likely to lose money given the IV crush that will happen today.

Re: GLM-5.3-Flash

#139

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The export controls were revoked before it triggered Chinese protectionism: https://www.silicon.co.uk/e-innovation/artificial-intelligen... / https://archive.vn/B2pah

The export controls were not revoked, only reduced, and not before, but after China refused to buy low performing chips. Top gear was and is still sanctioned, as is any EUVL equipment.

And to add to the above: by building their own supply chain for chips, China is helping the unprivileged, those who can't front-run the market with long-term contracts. If China wasn't producing their own chips, the prices for us would be even higher.

Similar to the war-pricing of oil, China's reduction of imports is actually helping to keep our inflation from going even higher.

Re: GLM-5.3-Flash

#140
At the current 50%-off GLM-5.3-Flash price ($0.075/M input, $0.25/M output; cached input $0.015/M), surprisingly, roughly $400–900/month would buy token throughput comparable to fully exhausting Claude Max 20×
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