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Re: AWS Acquires DuckLabs

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Post by d0100 »

rustyconover wrote: post #28
systems wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

its open source, we can fork .. (i know for such a project it will require a very special group of "we", but in theory .. it can happen)

If you need a fork, I've already done most of the hard work for all of you. https://query.farm/haybarn/ Or https://github.com/Query-farm-haybarn I've been releasing the versions all the way since 1.5.3 and all community extensions.

> a self-contained, signed extension ecosystem

What does this mean? Can I easily sign my own private extensions with my own key?

We are currently allowing unsigned extensions, loading them, then locking the duckdb config to prevent loading unsigned/untrusted extensions

Re: AWS Acquires DuckLabs

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Post by hobofan »

tormeh wrote: post #25

Seems like a good time to recommend Apache Datafusion. It's designed to be a library, but works pretty well standalone as well. There's a CLI version, but also Python and Java bindings, as well as a Rust library, of course. From my own experience I can say it integrates far better into your Rust app than DuckDB does. Well over 100 monthly contributors, too.

Datafusion has all of the individual pieces, especially if you just want to data analysis, but is far from an embedded database.

Indexes, transactions, a first-class storage format are all things that come included with DuckDB, that you won't have with Datafusion.

Re: AWS Acquires DuckLabs

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Post by jakozaur »

AWS rarely acquired startups, though leveraging someone else's tech is a typical pattern. It did license ParAccel and sold it as Redshift. It also runs Athena, which is based on Trino (a Presto fork).

Now, with Snowflake and Databricks earning big bucks in the intelligence era, time to gain market share by having DuckLabs under its ownership?

Re: AWS Acquires DuckLabs

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Post by nixon_why69 »

qaq wrote: post #70
ferguess_k wrote: post #18

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Yup, they are very serious about DynamoDB and it is a very good product. Wish they released more information about it, though.

Man I admire AWS marketing team for convincing people DynamoDB is a very good product. 100 items max per Transaction BatchGet 100 items, 16 MB max low write limits on same key Item size 400 KB max etc.

The reason it's good is because, although it is bad, you never have to worry about it in terms of maintenance, admin or scale. It's like lambda for databases.

For the same price, you can run a much more capable PSQL instance with way better features, but now you're on the hook for it being up 24/7.

Re: AWS Acquires DuckLabs

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Post by idontneedcoffee »

stingraycharles wrote: post #87
fullstop wrote: post #19

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Surely they are better than Google in this regard.

Google has such a much better reputation when it comes to contributing to and understanding open source. It’s unfair to Google to put Amazon above them. Heck AWS is the sole reason all these projects needed to go through these license changes to prevent AWS from completely destroying their business models.

..a strategy valid in the good ol' days when a complete rewrite of the currently non-licenseable non-protectable underlying desings and ideas would not cost you 200$ on tokens to reimplement in a different or even in the same language.. maybe SW patents will be a thing soon .. and inadvertently become another nail in the coffin of FOSS and SW development in general, who knows

Re: AWS Acquires DuckLabs

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Post by nixon_why69 »

yurishimo wrote: post #58
tyre wrote: post #48

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Very much doubt it’s generational wealth. I’m not sure how much people think open source companies are worth, but the path to VC-scale profitability is incredibly rare. My guess is that Amazon wants official hosted versions and doesn’t want to go through something like the Redis fiasco with licensing. In that case, they ended up having to support their own development anyway (with Valkey), so they might as well just…

How much do you really need for generational wealth? In my opinion, if you're more than 10 years away from retirement and received a surprise $1 million, you're setup for the rest of your life and your children as well assuming they don't immediately blow it all when you die (that's what a good trust should be for). Assuming historical returns, your money doubles roughly every 7 years, so within the rest of your life…

Assuming historical returns might be a little unsafe at a point in time near the peak of a bubble popping.

Re: AWS Acquires DuckLabs

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Post by rustyconover »

anentropic wrote: post #81
rustyconover wrote: post #21

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I've already created Haybarn which is Query.Farm's distribution of DuckDB: learn about it here: https://query.farm/haybarn/

If my extension shows as "build failed" on https://query.farm/haybarn/status/v1.5.5/ how do I go about fixing it? Presumably the issue is Haybarn-specific?

You can get in touch with me, or open an issue or PR as to why.

The CI extension build runs are still public on GitHub, but may have expired, if you bump your git sha ref it will rerun.

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