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Meta reaches $17B settlement over social media harms to children

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Re: Meta reaches $17B settlement over social media harms to children

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They are a very, very, very significant contributor.

Who is paying for their internet access?

Imagine being so out of touch that you think parents are generally equipped with the knowledge, features, and emotional capacity to manage their child's entire exposure to the internet in a way they cannot or will not circumvent. Laughable.

Re: Meta reaches $17B settlement over social media harms to children

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still feels like they got away easy for raping children's minds "Meta has long argued it could not have misled consumers about whether its services were addictive because "social media addiction" is not a recognized psychiatric condition." that's a nice escape hatch, considering that they are using all the tricks in the book (from online gambling, etc) and then some

>[irreparably damaging] children's minds I’d love for someone to get me into Mark Zuckerberg’s head on why he should keep doing what he’s doing.

Money!

Re: Meta reaches $17B settlement over social media harms to children

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still feels like they got away easy for raping children's minds "Meta has long argued it could not have misled consumers about whether its services were addictive because "social media addiction" is not a recognized psychiatric condition." that's a nice escape hatch, considering that they are using all the tricks in the book (from online gambling, etc) and then some

The smoking gun here is that they actually hired psychologists and experts in creating addictive stuff from e.g. the gambling industry. It clearly shows that their intent was "make this as addictive as possible."

Then they ignored tons and tons of warning signs that this was having a negative effect especially on children and the elderly.

Now I think they need to hit YouTube, TikTok, and addiction-engineered loot box games. If we're establishing the precedent that addiction-engineering is bad, that's a huge win for our civilization.

Pretty much the entire mobile ecosystem is a hellscape of black hat attacks on the human central nervous system. You can do it via a web browser or a desktop too but when you do it on a phone the portability and something about the form factor and touch interface seems to supercharge it.

Re: Meta reaches $17B settlement over social media harms to children

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>[irreparably damaging] children's minds I’d love for someone to get me into Mark Zuckerberg’s head on why he should keep doing what he’s doing.

Money!

Figure his own mental steelmans are legitimately more complex, though. And more faulty.

Re: Meta reaches $17B settlement over social media harms to children

#47

Would be nice to be able to enable these features as an adult (stop autoplay videos and no algorithmic feed). Also, I’m surprised by the lack of enforcement to remove infinite scrolling.

I want sliders to control the feed.

Re: Meta reaches $17B settlement over social media harms to children

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still feels like they got away easy for raping children's minds "Meta has long argued it could not have misled consumers about whether its services were addictive because "social media addiction" is not a recognized psychiatric condition." that's a nice escape hatch, considering that they are using all the tricks in the book (from online gambling, etc) and then some

>[irreparably damaging] children's minds I’d love for someone to get me into Mark Zuckerberg’s head on why he should keep doing what he’s doing.

If he doesn’t do it someone else will.

Also, I’m sure Peter Thiel being one of his first major investors has something to do with it.

Re: Meta reaches $17B settlement over social media harms to children

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Pay 25% from your 2025 profit for harming children since at least 2019 and be able to continue doing so. Sounds like a loss for society and a win for Meta.

I dunno, I kinda feel they have to pay the price for governments not having applicable regulations on this kinda stuff. It's not reasonable to expect them to put up rules their competition don't have to abide by, and if the government has 0 rules regarding social media, what should they do? They're not solely responsible for phone addiction but none of their competitors get sued the same...

You can't use the word "reasonable" when dealing with companies with more power than most governments
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