Good to see more competition in the open weights space. The more players the better.
Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
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Re: Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
#42There's a lot of brand confusion among the Chinese models right now. Kimi, Qwen, GLM, Z.ai, Ox. We might know the difference (or I should say, someone does because I'm losing track already) but these models have no chance at end user penetration and loyalty until there's a single focused survivor. It took me a year talking about it until my wife knew that ChatGPT and Gemini are two different things. PS: some replies,…
Just because you're confused doesn't mean that there is general confusion here. Its really not that complicated.
Re: Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
#43There's a lot of brand confusion among the Chinese models right now. Kimi, Qwen, GLM, Z.ai, Ox. We might know the difference (or I should say, someone does because I'm losing track already) but these models have no chance at end user penetration and loyalty until there's a single focused survivor. It took me a year talking about it until my wife knew that ChatGPT and Gemini are two different things. PS: some replies,…
Consumers aren’t the customer.
Re: Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
#44Good to see more competition in the open weights space. The more players the better.
But they’re not at all a new player.
Re: Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
#45It one-shotted generation of Java bindings for this project: https://github.com/jeffhajewski/latticedb
Related PR: https://github.com/jeffhajewski/latticedb/pull/5
The session used ~100K input tokens, ~60K output tokens, and ~80K thinking tokens.
I reviewed it using gpt-sol-medium, and it seems to be satisfied with it's work.
Re: Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
#46https://unwall.app/www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-08-2...
thanks for pointing me out on Unwall.App!
Didnt know they exist - looks very good, maybe even better than Archive.ph
Re: Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
#47Releasing weights is the right move. Keeps them competitive with DeepSeek on the open side.
I had good experience with GLM 5.3, but...
Z.AI is the only provider for GLM 5.3 on OpenRouter. I don't see 5.3 on Hugging Face. Not sure if this new model is "full GLM" or something smaller, or if they will like Moonshot AI publish weights but put restrictive license [1], which will again leave Z.AI as single GLM model provider on OpenRouter.
[1] https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3/blob/main/LICENSE
Re: Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
#48Releasing weights is the right move. Keeps them competitive with DeepSeek on the open side.
I had good experience with GLM 5.3, but... Z.AI is the only provider for GLM 5.3 on OpenRouter. I don't see 5.3 on Hugging Face. Not sure if this new model is "full GLM" or something smaller, or if they will like Moonshot AI publish weights but put restrictive license [1], which will again leave Z.AI as single GLM model provider on OpenRouter. [1] https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K3/blob/main/LICENSE
It's not released yet, just announced.
Re: Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
#49> The company on Wednesday confirmed speculation that the Ox Alpha model is a new iteration of its GLM series and said it will release the weights for it tonight, in response to queries by Bloomberg News.
Where? And "Tonight" in which timezone?
Re: Z.ai confirms Ox Alpha is a new GLM-series model and will release its weights
#50Mixed signals, here it's performing below even GPT-5.4 Nano: https://livebench.ai/ while here it outperforms Fable by a significant margin: https://oxalpha.com/ but if the latter is true, will people still say it was "distilled" from Fable?
I really want to see hard evidence of distillation before I buy into it. Seems like a lot of sour grapes over not having the sort of lead assumed. In this field, it has been shown repeatedly that leaps in performance come swiftly and without notice.
What would constitute evidence in your opinion?