IT students should use their own LLM.
Analyzing student votes across AI models for college essay help
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#42Anything is better than the current crop of Claudes, its prose has become painful.
yeah i think Claude might just be compounding its way to a local maximum rn
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#43Did they assess if any wanted to use their own brain?
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#44Gemini is bad at coding, but good at writing. More human like
Gemini is not bad at coding? Give it a /plan and it does a very decent job in a fraction of the time/tokens that Claude needs.
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#45I use Fable for writing code and some planning. I use GPT for planning/roadmaps and code review, it checks Fable. I use Gemini for stray conversations. Gemini has a better conversational style than GPT, less robotic; it hallucinates more unfortunately, it has plainly fallen quite a bit behind, but it's still highly useful to converse with, research with, etc. And it spares me wasting usage of GPT or Fable. I use Gemini for the 'everything else' category, basically. Gemini never goes anywhere near anything serious.
Fable & Claude Opus 4.x or 5 are terrible to talk to about anything. I gave up on that entirely and just use Anthropic's models for work.
Any less serious technical work I'll use GPT for, as the usage limits are quite fantastic.
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#46Anything is better than the current crop of Claudes, its prose has become painful.
For real, the "Claudish" has become so painful to read that it just takes me out of whatever task I was working on. When prompted to use simple English without jargon, it's still filled with load bearing honest caveats in every footgun seam it talks about — what I should have led with. And I'm not the only one to notice this. Next time it's up for renewal, my team is abandoning it for GH Copilot in order to use liter…
good thing claudish isnt a programming language
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#47skeptical
at most, the result could be useful for fellow students
I have no doubt other cohorts would rate differently
it is known (on HN at least) e.g. that SWEs tend to prefer brevity, contrary to these students apparently
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#48Gemini is bad at coding, but good at writing. More human like
Makes sense when you consider what type of data Google had available in abundance. Natural written language (e.g., Docs, Gmail, Books) and natural spoken language (e.g., YouTube). One could argue that Google Colab would supply the training data for better coding performance. I would argue that Colab is mostly used for non-complex (e.g., small number of variables) and self-contained (i.e., runnable in one page) code t…
Google also has millions of lines of code in several languages written over decades. Probably access to more non-public (quality) code than most other companies in the world.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to public material, Google does not train Gemini on Gmail or Docs: https://blog.google/products-and-platforms/products/gmail/pr... https://proton.me/business/blog/google-docs-ai-scraping
Given it's Google, I don't believe it.
That's up to you, but occam's razor would suggest the most likely thing is that they are in fact just doing what they say they do in their T&Cs.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given it's Google, I don't believe it.
That's up to you, but occam's razor would suggest the most likely thing is that they are in fact just doing what they say they do in their T&Cs.
If that's what Occam's razor would suggest, then Occam presumes a world where actors do what they say. We see more and more the opposite of that in Silicon Valley.
You may well be right about Google not including the said data but your support for this point is weak.