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Ask HN: What is one simple thing LLMs are insanely bad at?

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Re: Ask HN: What is one simple thing LLMs are insanely bad at?

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Giving hints.

On math or programming problems, they are overfit to solving the entire thing end to end (presumably for benchmarks). I have had very poor results asking for pointers and hints that don't give away key insights. This has been the case across models I have tested.

An architecture with a "judge" that gates responses and ensures a lack of spoilers would probably work better. But this is a simple thing that they keep messing up.

Re: Ask HN: What is one simple thing LLMs are insanely bad at?

#43
Serious answer: no model ever gets close to writing an architectural floor plan that makes sense.

They understand all the rules and best practices, they can (sometimes) spot a bad idea in a floor plan, they can describe a good floor plan.

But ask them to make one, even if you give it every detail (even a "node graph" of rooms), they will still output nonsense. Same for text and image models.

Floor plans should be the new Pelican Benchmark.

Re: Ask HN: What is one simple thing LLMs are insanely bad at?

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Suggesting business names for businesses, I mean they are great, but they already exist, multiple times even.

True, tried it so many times and every time I come up with something myself though sometimes inspired by the AI's ideas.

Verifying trademarks and domain name availability is usually an additional step you need to ask it to perform. Trademark DB searches by the way are intentionally made difficult to scrape so most of the time it's a manual process anyway.

However, once you give it all the information (TM search results, domain name availability) it can help you with the judgement of how safe the name is from the legal perspective. With the obvious caveats, but still a good starting point if you are serious about the name.

Re: Ask HN: What is one simple thing LLMs are insanely bad at?

#46
One unexpected discovery that I have made while building an AI-based system: the LLM's are bad at designing prompts.

We tend to think that the AI has some sort of self-knowledge and should be good at designing prompts for itself but it's really not.

Been struggling with a task that heavily depended on prompts, ended up rewriting all my prompts from scratch in my own words, and it finally worked. Then every time I ask Claude to fix something in the prompts, it invariably makes it worse.

A very strange phenomenon that can probably be explained by the quality of prompt design advice that made it to the training dataset. Bottomline, all the prompt design advice that you can find on the internet is really not great.

Re: Ask HN: What is one simple thing LLMs are insanely bad at?

#47

They don't generate keyword search queries very well. They can overcome this by brute force but if you watch what they search you will cringe. nhl toronto scores nhl hockey toronto scores "nhl hockey" toronto score today nhl "hockey score toronto" "hockey" who won toronto etc. Somehow being good at semantic search makes them bad at keyword search, for whatever reason.

Can confirm; Claude is quite bad at this by default. Need a special skill

Re: Ask HN: What is one simple thing LLMs are insanely bad at?

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post #43

Serious answer: no model ever gets close to writing an architectural floor plan that makes sense. They understand all the rules and best practices, they can (sometimes) spot a bad idea in a floor plan, they can describe a good floor plan. But ask them to make one, even if you give it every detail (even a "node graph" of rooms), they will still output nonsense. Same for text and image models. Floor plans should be the…

I had this experience too. I had blueprints from the builder and wanted a 'nice' floor rendering like some apartments have. I fed it the blueprints and let it iterate. Even giving it plenty of time, dimensions, etc. it just couldn't create something that matched reality.
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