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Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by andsoitis »

afavour wrote: post #316

A real shame. Even if you put all the political arguments aside it sucks when a site requires you to log in before you can read content on it. For me that’ll mean I just don’t read content on there any more. Which I realise X doesn’t care about, I’m not monetisable anyway. But a shame nonetheless.

> a site requires you to log in before you can read content on it.

That's not true for X. You can read content without being signed in.

https://help.x.com/en/safety-and-security/public-and-protect...

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by mock-possum »

nomel wrote: post #459
afavour wrote: post #316

A real shame. Even if you put all the political arguments aside it sucks when a site requires you to log in before you can read content on it. For me that’ll mean I just don’t read content on there any more. Which I realise X doesn’t care about, I’m not monetisable anyway. But a shame nonetheless.

> when a site requires you to log in before you can read content on it. Where does this come from? You can see the last few posts of an account [1], and the contents of a single posts, but minimal to no comments [2]. Videos play after dismissing the login popup. I have no X account, but I read content there all the time without issue. [1] https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack [2] https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/209198394060…

Not sure how you manage that - twitter, insta, and pinterest all begrudgingly let you see one, maybe two things, then lock down and prevent you from interacting without logging in.

It really gives the sense that you’re not wanted there.

And so I gladly oblige.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by fuzzzerd »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #380
Petersipoi wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is the point. It's a way to get the value of a service you don't like, while signaling to everyone that you're too virtuous to use the service you're getting value out of.

I prefer not to share links that require the people receiving the link to create an account to read the content and it's replies or post to such websites for that matter. That's basic netiquette.

Same, and I'm learning that we're definitely a minority.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by gruez »

nomel wrote: post #459
afavour wrote: post #316

A real shame. Even if you put all the political arguments aside it sucks when a site requires you to log in before you can read content on it. For me that’ll mean I just don’t read content on there any more. Which I realise X doesn’t care about, I’m not monetisable anyway. But a shame nonetheless.

> when a site requires you to log in before you can read content on it. Where does this come from? You can see the last few posts of an account [1], and the contents of a single posts, but minimal to no comments [2]. Videos play after dismissing the login popup. I have no X account, but I read content there all the time without issue. [1] https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack [2] https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/209198394060…

A few months ago you needed to log in to view any replies, which was critical for some threads.

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Post by mrtesthah »

ticoombs wrote: post #324
ryandrake wrote: post #261

I really don't think this is going to have the effect that X thinks it will have. I've always said that if XCancel and Nitter get taken down, I'm not going to suddenly decide to make an X account--I'm just going to stop reading their content. Same for old.reddit.com. If they kill it, I'm not going to give in and create an account--I'm just going to stop visiting.

They have killed old.reddit now. It forces you (or at least me) to login. Same with regular Reddit. Most threads I get an authwall after the top comment. (Im now entirely on HN and Lemmy)

I use proxy software like redlib and teddit. The browser extension LibRedirect[1] makes these easy to use without conscious thought. They're read-only, but if you were going to post something, you'd have to sign in anyway.

1. https://libredirect.manerakai.com

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by mrtesthah »

chrysoprace wrote: post #401
Waterluvian wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is the worst for this. I hate the disgusting, low class UX design where they let you read about 10-15 seconds of a page before locking you out. Though I think Pinterest takes the cake for being just the ugliest example of this.

Old Reddit is now completely unusable without an account. Maybe it's time for me to finally stop using it.

Use a LibReddit/Redlib/Teddit/etc. instance.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Post by apparent »

afavour wrote: post #316

A real shame. Even if you put all the political arguments aside it sucks when a site requires you to log in before you can read content on it. For me that’ll mean I just don’t read content on there any more. Which I realise X doesn’t care about, I’m not monetisable anyway. But a shame nonetheless.

It's possible that the lack of these alternatives will decrease engagement enough that Twitter would loosen these rules. Perhaps not that likely, but it's possible.

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Post by thayne »

nomel wrote: post #460
dolebirchwood wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm totally clueless, but aren't there rules requiring accessibility of public-facing government communications, to the extent that they shouldn't be allowed to use a gated platform when making official statements that are a matter of public interest?

It's not gated. You can read any non-adult post with a direct link. I'm seeing this perspective all over in here. As someone without an X account, I can only assume you all have X accounts to not know this!

You can't see replies without an account, and it is pretty common for content to be posted as a series of replies to the first post

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Post by specialist »

jambalaya8 wrote: post #329
negura wrote: post #322

Middle powers should heed Cory Doctorow's advice [0] and start offering legal protection in their jurisdictions for precisely this type of projects. America is a hostile nation, who has sought to align everyone with its interests, under a false pretense of mutual benefit, while instead its tech sector has caused much harm at a global scale. America is now doubling down on value extraction, at an obvious expense to ev…

All due respect, but how would anyone survive, no less find a way to make anything like the average income of any of us on HN, in a world that made not just some 'patents' free but removed property and invention such as the extremities Doctorow's fiction often espouses? America is sorta known for pretense of mutual benefit. We sorta fumbled things after we, to put it bluntly, nuked the Japanese twice. Don't get me wr…

For a very brief window of time, USA did a little bit more good than bad.

Those of us wanting to believe USA was more better than not have struggled to recalibate our beliefs.

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