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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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whalesalad wrote: post #582
dcow wrote: post #533

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Can you characterize the deterioration more specifically? I only ask because every time I run this exercise for myself I end up back on macOS, despite any hiccups.

If you have not tried it this is an absolute game changer for Mac users moving to Linux. https://github.com/RedBearAK/toshy I've been running it for 3 years now. I am so macpilled that I had to install it on my new Framework 13 pro. The Mac muscle memory was always my biggest hurdle with Linux. I always felt handicapped by it. But Toshy eliminates that.

Nice. I've also found, through that, kinto.sh which is apparently the equivalent for Windows.

As a recent Mac-> Windows switcher for work, my productivity has nosedived partially for keybinding confusion. For instance, I instinctively reach for Option+Arrow keys to jump the cursor over words, which mapped onto the Windows keyboard is Windows->Arrow, which moves the whole window around the desktop into predefined positions. Cool feature, but my muscle memory for the other thing means I'm always screwing up window position (and never thinking to use it on purpose).

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by xp84 »

slowin wrote: post #653
foxyv wrote: post #597

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I have never owned an Apple product that didn't slowly get worse over time. After a couple iPads and MacBooks, I'm almost certain they are intentionally updating their operating system to slow down older products. Even worse is the removal of access to certain applications for older hardware in the name of security or compatibility. Meanwhile my Linux laptop continues to get faster every year as the operating system…

The only Apple products that I can think of that haven't degraded in quality over time are the iPods and maybe the Apple Watch.

Do you mean Airpods?

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by caycep »

foxyv wrote: post #597
alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

I have never owned an Apple product that didn't slowly get worse over time. After a couple iPads and MacBooks, I'm almost certain they are intentionally updating their operating system to slow down older products. Even worse is the removal of access to certain applications for older hardware in the name of security or compatibility. Meanwhile my Linux laptop continues to get faster every year as the operating system…

This may be true (not perceptible w/ my apple silicon Macs), but the important thing is that they get slower more slowly than my wintel gets slower (I blame disgruntled Windows and/or nvidia drivers devs....)

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by st3fan »

alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

the top comment .. "i prefer linux"

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by zmmmmm »

SilverSlash wrote: post #25

The 512GB Ultra is amazing, sure. But who is it for exactly? VC funded big spender founders? In that case why would they need local AI? The ultra rich enthusiast? But there can't be too many of those. So who actually buys these?

Anyone dealing with sensitive or regulated data can get started instantly with local models where they may need time consuming process or complexities to send sensitive data outside.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by xp84 »

zer0zzz wrote: post #619
soulofmischief wrote: post #595

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I wouldn't even know where to begin, because the slide in quality has permeated every aspect of the operating system, from stability to design. Numerous networking bugs, SSH agent bugs, sleep state bugs, sometimes having to restart my machine because the network screws up so badly, Bluetooth issues that they keep introducing and then not fixing; I have peripherals that just no longer work due to this. I could go on a…

Why not just stay on the previous 15 release? They still even push updates for it!

Agreed. I have skipped Tahoe and will update to Golden Gate when it's out of beta. I did the same complete skip on "Sonoma," I think. At this point, the complete absence of quality in MacOS releases has turned me from an "update on day one" guy into a "Skip major version updates unless it's widely being praised for improving performance and fixing existing bugs" guy.

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Post by trompetenaccoun »

nightski wrote: post #614
whalesalad wrote: post #582

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If you have not tried it this is an absolute game changer for Mac users moving to Linux. https://github.com/RedBearAK/toshy I've been running it for 3 years now. I am so macpilled that I had to install it on my new Framework 13 pro. The Mac muscle memory was always my biggest hurdle with Linux. I always felt handicapped by it. But Toshy eliminates that.

That is amusing because to me one of the largest abominations about mac is the keyboard layout and mappings. It's terrible for anyone with decent sized hands to accomplish anything of even medium complexity.

I'm not a fan myself but needing to only memorize one set of commands and keyboard shortcuts is plus for sure. It's one of the biggest annoyances when switching between operating systems.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by testing22321 »

greenowl wrote: post #581
alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

Still rocking an M1 Air - 2020 build. 8GB ram. No slowdown or deterioration at all. Battery health reports the battery max capacity at 84%. Best computer I've ever owned, by far.

I bought a used M1 air with 16GB and 2TB a few years ago for $1000 CAD. It’s easily the fastest computer I’ve ever used, and I have no reason to upgrade. It chews through 4K footage and ten of thousands of RAW images off my cameras.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by alluro2 »

aymeric wrote: post #647
alluro2 wrote: post #524

I was blown away by M1 Pro, and used it for 4 years before it became a little sluggish, and replacing it with an Asus S16 running on Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 (an excellent laptop). One of the main reasons was missing my old Linux setup. I've briefly tested M5 Pro in an Apple store and was surprised by how quick it felt and did anything. A tangible and significant difference, and I really feel it would be good getting it, or…

What Linux distribution do you use?

CachyOS with KDE...it's been amazingly fast, dependable, stable, customizable, polished (yes, really)...
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