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Re: Andreessen Horowitz is investing billions into a bleak future

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Post by guywithahat »

theideaofcoffee wrote: post #377
guywithahat wrote: post #228

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Keep on lickin' that boot, Boot. Maybe if you swallow the entire thing, he'll look your way!

This is a tech form centered around startups, run by a private equity firm (YC). Marc and Jim Clark were and are visionaries, who have not only been financially successful but Jim's thesis which Marc continued was that engineers were underpaid, and by paying them more you can create a better product. It's because of these people that a generic android app developer at ChatGPT makes ~400k/year + stock.

I don't know what you think your comment adds to the conversation but I assure you it's not insightful, and if you dislike venture capitalists this is a bad place for you to spend your time.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz is investing billions into a bleak future

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Post by nchmy »

MisterTea wrote: post #418
nchmy wrote: post #318

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whoosh

I'm well aware of the meme so that whoosh sound you heard was actually my joke passing over your head.

I cant believe I'm actually going to try to explain how your joke wasn't a joke, because you missed the initial joke. But here we are... the "meme" is leopards ate my face https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/, and they said "cheetahs at my face". And for some inexplicable reason you then tried to correct/FTFY to proper "Cheaters" spelling, ruining the joke/pun entirely. Erroneous pedants are surely the saddest of people...

Re: Andreessen Horowitz is investing billions into a bleak future

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Post by theideaofcoffee »

guywithahat wrote: post #431
theideaofcoffee wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Keep on lickin' that boot, Boot. Maybe if you swallow the entire thing, he'll look your way!

This is a tech form centered around startups, run by a private equity firm (YC). Marc and Jim Clark were and are visionaries, who have not only been financially successful but Jim's thesis which Marc continued was that engineers were underpaid, and by paying them more you can create a better product. It's because of these people that a generic android app developer at ChatGPT makes ~400k/year + stock. I don't know wh…

Then let the Banhammer of the Sanctus Capitalista strike this parrhesiastes down!

Lighten up, man. These people don't care about you, and I assure you they're not reading your comments waiting to hire you. Why should I care about them when they are doing everything in their power to make this world a worse place?

Re: Andreessen Horowitz is investing billions into a bleak future

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Post by CM30 »

Timon3 wrote: post #405
CM30 wrote: post #371

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But why wouldn't the rest of society kick them out before that point? Like at some point, there's going to be a lot of political pressure to fix things, especially if the majority of the population is going hungry or struggling to find work. Feels like at some point, some 'rogue' political figure will win election by saying the elites need to be overthrown, and the latter's influence will burn to the ground. If even…

How many years remain where the population actually still has any way to kick them out? Once military robots are sufficiently advanced, we've lost. We'll be fully at their mercy. Optimistically speaking, that's maybe 5-10 years out?

But that assumes the population can't vote for someone else who will kick them out. As far as I know, there are no plans to stop third parties from being created, independents from running for political roles, or people voting for whoever they want to vote for.

If a large percentage of the population is going hungry or can't find jobs, then they'll vote for people that (at least say) they'll change that. If any of those people actually do that, then billionaires are toast, their assets could be seized and the laws could be rewritten so things like a universal basic income are implemented.

It doesn't matter how many resources someone has, they're not overthrowing the government, replacing democracy with a dictatorship or doing anything of the sort, especially not worldwide.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz is investing billions into a bleak future

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

sublinear wrote: post #328
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #120

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> So, you consider anyone with a job "powerful"? That is not what OP said, so you may want to re-read what they said.

What did I misunderstand?

There is simply not anything in their post which says what you said (So, you consider anyone with a job "powerful"?).

If paraphrasing is a hurdle, keep in mind it isn't necessary, you can just respond to their own wording of what they said.

If I may try to provide an outside perspective: your paraphrasing being accurate depends on others' acceptance of your proposal that jobs are mutually exclusive with ethics.

And speaking personally, I did not follow what you were saying about useful idiots. Sorry.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz is investing billions into a bleak future

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Post by bdelmas »

mylies43 wrote: post #295
bdelmas wrote: post #124

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It’s not the players we should hate but the ones who make the rules of the game. Specifically not the ones who make the rules for the greater good but for themselves.

So, the players?

No rule makers. Players are not the one making the rules of a game. They just play it.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz is investing billions into a bleak future

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Post by Timon3 »

CM30 wrote: post #435
Timon3 wrote: post #405

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How many years remain where the population actually still has any way to kick them out? Once military robots are sufficiently advanced, we've lost. We'll be fully at their mercy. Optimistically speaking, that's maybe 5-10 years out?

But that assumes the population can't vote for someone else who will kick them out. As far as I know, there are no plans to stop third parties from being created, independents from running for political roles, or people voting for whoever they want to vote for. If a large percentage of the population is going hungry or can't find jobs, then they'll vote for people that (at least say) they'll change that. If any of th…

Today, the working class already have a miniscule influence compared to the rich and powerful. What makes you think the people could vote them out once they have an automatic army...? Why would they care about any kind of vote?

Seriously, imagine SV had produced 1 million autonomous robots, and a US government like today's was in power. How long do you think a strike would last? Many of these people are already openly talking about how we should adopt the 996 system, and how most people shouldn't be allowed to vote. I don't see any reason why we should expect anything but the worst.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz is investing billions into a bleak future

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Post by happymellon »

andriy_koval wrote: post #425
account42 wrote: post #395

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Countries are not doing anything about low replacement rates because its currently in the interest of the elite to keep them low so that they can sell the need to import lower paid foreigners instead.

Elite is interested to have their country to win the race and not other, and healthy menpower is still essential for this.

When you are far removed from everything, your logic doesn't always make sense.

The problem with local workforce is that you have less threats hanging over their heads. Ones you can threaten with deportation, separation from their children, or just shoot in the streets, are just more controllable.

Imported labour has less rights and will be more open to grovelling.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz is investing billions into a bleak future

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Post by andriy_koval »

happymellon wrote: post #439
andriy_koval wrote: post #425

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elite is interested to have their country to win the race and not other, and healthy menpower is still essential for this.

When you are far removed from everything, your logic doesn't always make sense. The problem with local workforce is that you have less threats hanging over their heads. Ones you can threaten with deportation, separation from their children, or just shoot in the streets, are just more controllable. Imported labour has less rights and will be more open to grovelling.

you still need local country to be attractive enough to make people come and fear of deportation, meaning locals will be Ok too.
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