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Post by snailmailman »

dwedge wrote: post #69
cdrnsf wrote: post #22

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Like all social media, your feed depends partly on who you follow and partly on behavioural cues their algorithms can determine about you (such as who you interact with, sites you visit). It may be skewed one way or another more than other social networks, but even so, you should be careful saying a social media is a racist bigoted right wing echo chamber because it can sound not like a recital of popular media but m…

One of the many reasons I stopped using the platform is because after Elon took over, my carefully tuned algorithmic feed stopped showing me content I was interested in and instead promoted bigots and nazis into my feed. Nearly all of the accounts I followed promptly went elsewhere instead of having to endure the platform.

I only check literally one account occasionally, and via xcancel. The last post I looked at on the platform was vaguely supportive of the LGBT community- all top replies were all blatantly homophobic and had slurs in them. It was via xcancel so I wasn’t logged in. That’s not a personalized algorithm showing me bigotry that’s just what the platform is now.

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Post by scosman »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #197
Eridrus wrote: post #195

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This makes sense for HN as a marketing project for YC. This doesn't make sense for ad supported platforms where the value is the eyeballs on their site.

To be clear, no ads. I might have a donation link just to cover hosting costs, but I'm not trying to extract money out of this. I have a full time job for that. This is just an art project.

yeah, it's X that has ads. Which is why they wouldn't be as receptive as HN.

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Post by SwellJoe »

yubblegum wrote: post #166
NoboruWataya wrote: post #6

What is the main use case for X these days? Is it still as popular as it used to be? Clearly the exodus that happened when Musk took it over didn't kill it but I do seem to see fewer links to it than I used to. Whenever I do see it linked on here it seems to be because one of the big tech CEOs has said something on it.

> What is the main use case for X these days? twitter/x remains the domain of intelligence agencies worldwide. It is a semi-open (the world first virtual leader, the ayatollah affirms he exists from there ..) psychological operations platform that permits the avatars of "world leaders" to speak to masses and also hosts a parasitical community of grifters ("opinion makers" and "influencers") that feed off of the feste…

I don't believe the extremism engine of Xitter is reducing the risk of global catastrophe. I think it's accelerating that risk. Certainly it helped elect Trump, and no one can argue that's been good for advancing the cause of peace on earth or avoiding several other causes of mass death.

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Post by scosman »

phatfish wrote: post #202
tossit444 wrote: post #118

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From Nitter matrix group: basically, it demands that I: 1. Permanently take down nitter.net and the GitHub repository, and delete all "X Data" in both 2. Stop all use of the "Twitter" and "X" marks 3. Cease all access to X data, including copies 4. Delete all X account credentials and session tokens 5. Confirm compliance in writing within three business days The claims asserted are breach of X's Terms of Service, Dev…

So much free speech.

A new case where the "free as in speech, not free as in beer" clarification helps.

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Post by TheBicPen »

Melatonic wrote: post #207
GeoAtreides wrote: post #204

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you're infringing HN users' copyright (and possible other rights as well), as they haven't granted you a license to copy, store and republish their content

Didn't realise everything I posted online was copyrighted by default

Any creative work you create is copyrighted by default as soon as it is recorded onto some medium, at least in the US. https://www.copyright.gov/what-is-copyright/

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Post by sillysaurusx »

GeoAtreides wrote: post #204
sillysaurusx wrote: post #130

I’ve been writing an HN clone that’s literally a clone. It copies all front page posts and comments. I just wanted to say publicly that dang is awesome. Instead of shutting down the idea, he’s been actively helping the project by answering periodic emails and… well, not shutting it down. Not sure what to do with it yet. Maybe I could let users have custom filtering rules. But the point is, companies should support co…

you're infringing HN users' copyright (and possible other rights as well), as they haven't granted you a license to copy, store and republish their content

Some further analysis that argues this is fair use: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49440395

There's also going to be an opt-out feature: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49439657

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Post by GeoAtreides »

8note wrote: post #208
GeoAtreides wrote: post #204

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you're infringing HN users' copyright (and possible other rights as well), as they haven't granted you a license to copy, store and republish their content

they certainly havr given that license otherwise my browser could not make reproductions and store caches

they have granted a licence to HN (and YC-affiliated companies), not anyone else. It's that licence that permits HN, and HN only, to send users' content to your browser

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Post by orange999 »

raphman wrote: post #3

Not much detail so far. > We have received cease and desist letters. Awaiting legal advice at the moment, but for now expect all nitter instances to remain down for the foreseeable future. [for all those who - like me - first check the comments before clicking on the link]

"For the forseeable future" doesn't sound very good. It's a vague phrase, but it usually isn't used to describe something that will change next week or even next month.

"For the time being" would have sounded like less bad wording than "for the forseeable future."

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