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Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Not much detail so far. > We have received cease and desist letters. Awaiting legal advice at the moment, but for now expect all nitter instances to remain down for the foreseeable future. [for all those who - like me - first check the comments before clicking on the link]

They should respond with a poop emoji, which is what Musk sends to people he doesn't care about.

Musk can afford to be childish about legal challenges because the outcome doesn't really matter to him.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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post #3

Not much detail so far. > We have received cease and desist letters. Awaiting legal advice at the moment, but for now expect all nitter instances to remain down for the foreseeable future. [for all those who - like me - first check the comments before clicking on the link]

From Nitter matrix group: basically, it demands that I: 1. Permanently take down nitter.net and the GitHub repository, and delete all "X Data" in both 2. Stop all use of the "Twitter" and "X" marks 3. Cease all access to X data, including copies 4. Delete all X account credentials and session tokens 5. Confirm compliance in writing within three business days The claims asserted are breach of X's Terms of Service, Dev…

So much free speech.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

#203
I have ignored many cease and desists from powerful entities, for years, with no problems. Call their bluff. They are almost always a baseless fear tactic.

If you guys are really going to stay down otherwise because you are worried, transfer ownership of the Nitter servers to me on paper and I will approve turning them back on and resume operations as usual.

I have zero problem telling Musk to fuck off. In court, if needed.

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

#204

I’ve been writing an HN clone that’s literally a clone. It copies all front page posts and comments. I just wanted to say publicly that dang is awesome. Instead of shutting down the idea, he’s been actively helping the project by answering periodic emails and… well, not shutting it down. Not sure what to do with it yet. Maybe I could let users have custom filtering rules. But the point is, companies should support co…

you're infringing HN users' copyright (and possible other rights as well), as they haven't granted you a license to copy, store and republish their content

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

#205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Musk is who you engage with on twitter. You're one of the people who makes his account the most engaged with. I follow tons of stuff on twitter, and have no idea what Musk is doing unless it gets in the mainstream news.

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Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

#206
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The open web is dead. The open web remains dead. And we have killed it. I'm actually much less anti-Musk than the average HN commentator but it should be universally agreed here that a small handful of mega-corp websites dominating the majority of content on the web is a bad thing . Nitter was hardly a solution. Federated platforms like Mastodon and Bluesky are "culturally" closed, and "free speech" platforms like X…

> IMO we all need to start vibe coding PHP bulletin boards again. 'RETVRN' etc. The most recent release of phpbb was 2 months ago

And it’s still having critical security vulns after 26 years

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

#207

I’ve been writing an HN clone that’s literally a clone. It copies all front page posts and comments. I just wanted to say publicly that dang is awesome. Instead of shutting down the idea, he’s been actively helping the project by answering periodic emails and… well, not shutting it down. Not sure what to do with it yet. Maybe I could let users have custom filtering rules. But the point is, companies should support co…

you're infringing HN users' copyright (and possible other rights as well), as they haven't granted you a license to copy, store and republish their content

Didn't realise everything I posted online was copyrighted by default

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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I’ve been writing an HN clone that’s literally a clone. It copies all front page posts and comments. I just wanted to say publicly that dang is awesome. Instead of shutting down the idea, he’s been actively helping the project by answering periodic emails and… well, not shutting it down. Not sure what to do with it yet. Maybe I could let users have custom filtering rules. But the point is, companies should support co…

you're infringing HN users' copyright (and possible other rights as well), as they haven't granted you a license to copy, store and republish their content

they certainly havr given that license

otherwise my browser could not make reproductions and store caches

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IMO we all need to start vibe coding PHP bulletin boards again. 'RETVRN' etc. The most recent release of phpbb was 2 months ago

And it’s still having critical security vulns after 26 years

Can’t get a CVE if every anonymously generated slop forum is different

Re: Nitter and XCancel receive cease and desist notices

#210

What is the main use case for X these days? Is it still as popular as it used to be? Clearly the exodus that happened when Musk took it over didn't kill it but I do seem to see fewer links to it than I used to. Whenever I do see it linked on here it seems to be because one of the big tech CEOs has said something on it.

Its main use for myself was that posts were public by default so lots of government orgs and whatnot posted real time status updates. I never really used it except for occasionally checking those.

Now that more and more are going "walled garden" I don't get it at all

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